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Dumb Rhetoric
#31
RE: Dumb Rhetoric
(April 21, 2018 at 2:17 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(April 20, 2018 at 8:32 pm)Grandizer Wrote: And by such reasoning, an actual infinity isn't possible because you can't fully experience it. Hence, my previous post.

I don't believe that I or Steve have said any such thing (concerning cannot be fully experienced).  I think you misunderstand.  I would very much be against someone arguing in such a way, using only what can be experienced.

Well, obviously an infinity can't be fully experienced. We'd have to be infinite ourselves to experience it. That doesn't mean an infinity couldn't be possible though.

I think the universe is finite in size but it's temporally eternal.
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#32
RE: Dumb Rhetoric
(April 21, 2018 at 2:17 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(April 20, 2018 at 8:32 pm)Grandizer Wrote: And by such reasoning, an actual infinity isn't possible because you can't fully experience it. Hence, my previous post.

I don't believe that I or Steve have said any such thing (concerning cannot be fully experienced).  I think you misunderstand.  I would very much be against someone arguing in such a way, using only what can be experienced.

Great, so an actual infinity is logically possible even though you may not be able to fully experience it (including reaching every part of it). Now that you concede an actual infinity is possible, please don't quickly go back a few posts from now to denying that you did agree.
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#33
RE: Dumb Rhetoric
I think some people get logically possible and metaphysically possible mixed up sometimes.

It may or may not be metaphysically possible (how could we even test that?) but it's certainly logically possible.
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#34
RE: Dumb Rhetoric
(April 21, 2018 at 6:43 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(April 21, 2018 at 2:17 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't believe that I or Steve have said any such thing (concerning cannot be fully experienced).  I think you misunderstand.  I would very much be against someone arguing in such a way, using only what can be experienced.

Great, so an actual infinity is logically possible even though you may not be able to fully experience it (including reaching every part of it). Now that you concede an actual infinity is possible, please don't quickly go back a few posts from now to denying that you did agree.

Lol, that’s funny.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#35
RE: Dumb Rhetoric
Keep beating that broken drum Road
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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