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May 25, 2018 at 8:27 pm
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Quote:When first encountering radiocarbon dating (also commonly called C-14 or RC dating) it can be a little bit daunting. However, when the method is explained it is actually a very easy concept to understand.
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RE: Not For Fundie Assholes It Isn't!
May 25, 2018 at 10:05 pm
They have this love/hate thing for science. Just more cognitive dissonance.
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RE: Not For Fundie Assholes It Isn't!
May 25, 2018 at 10:49 pm
They also think all radiometric dating is C14 dating, mostly unaware of the others.
Most amusingly, they read about various gotchas which can totally invalidate different types of radiometric dating and think they have discovered the holy grail of apologists - the discovery that radiometric dating is flawed. Of course, scientists were the first to be aware of problems needing to be corrected for and the limitations of each radiometric dating type.
The vampire/sunlight analogy is apt because this technology really is a stake through the heart of young-earth apologists.
The newer Cosmos series episode 7: The Clean Room tells a fascinating story of how radiometric dating was used to finally nail down the age of Earth. If you search around, you should be able to find places where you can watch it. Not only did Clair Cameron Patterson discover the age of our planet using uranium-lead dating, he also discovered in the process that we were being poisoned by leaded gasoline. One of my all-time favorite science stories.
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RE: Not For Fundie Assholes It Isn't!
May 25, 2018 at 11:19 pm
(May 25, 2018 at 10:49 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: They also think all radiometric dating is C14 dating, mostly unaware of the others.
Most amusingly, they read about various gotchas which can totally invalidate different types of radiometric dating and think they have discovered the holy grail of apologists - the discovery that radiometric dating is flawed. Of course, scientists were the first to be aware of problems needing to be corrected for and the limitations of each radiometric dating type.
The vampire/sunlight analogy is apt because this technology really is a stake through the heart of young-earth apologists.
The newer Cosmos series episode 7: The Clean Room tells a fascinating story of how radiometric dating was used to finally nail down the age of Earth. If you search around, you should be able to find places where you can watch it. Not only did Clair Cameron Patterson discover the age of our planet using uranium-lead dating, he also discovered in the process that we were being poisoned by leaded gasoline. One of my all-time favorite science stories.
When I taught physics, I used to draw the whole decay cycle from uranium to lead on the board and have the students copy it into their notes. Depending on the isotope of uranium, there are several paths, and we can tell which isotope the lead originated from, based on the isotope of lead. Fun fact- anything above iron in the Periodic Table was created in the explosion of a star, at least a nova. The school I taught at (a Waldorf school) had as part of the curriculum that we were made of silver and gold (as star stuff), but they frowned on calling a sun a nuclear reactor. Fuckin' weirdos.
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RE: Not For Fundie Assholes It Isn't!
May 25, 2018 at 11:42 pm
(May 25, 2018 at 11:19 pm)Fireball Wrote: (May 25, 2018 at 10:49 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: They also think all radiometric dating is C14 dating, mostly unaware of the others.
Most amusingly, they read about various gotchas which can totally invalidate different types of radiometric dating and think they have discovered the holy grail of apologists - the discovery that radiometric dating is flawed. Of course, scientists were the first to be aware of problems needing to be corrected for and the limitations of each radiometric dating type.
The vampire/sunlight analogy is apt because this technology really is a stake through the heart of young-earth apologists.
The newer Cosmos series episode 7: The Clean Room tells a fascinating story of how radiometric dating was used to finally nail down the age of Earth. If you search around, you should be able to find places where you can watch it. Not only did Clair Cameron Patterson discover the age of our planet using uranium-lead dating, he also discovered in the process that we were being poisoned by leaded gasoline. One of my all-time favorite science stories.
The school I taught at (a Waldorf school) had as part of the curriculum that we were made of silver and gold (as star stuff), but they frowned on calling a sun a nuclear reactor. Fuckin' weirdos.
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People wouldn't think of going to an auto mechanic to get their teeth cleaned or call a tax-preparer to fix the leak in their shower valve but for some reason, they look for their science information in the strangest places. Some dumb-ass, Republican senator from Oklahoma knows more about climate change than someone with a doctorate in a related area from MIT or Cal-tech.
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RE: Not For Fundie Assholes It Isn't!
May 26, 2018 at 12:24 am
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RE: Not For Fundie Assholes It Isn't!
May 26, 2018 at 4:18 am
Yeah, dating rocks is a real voodoo
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Not For Fundie Assholes It Isn't!
May 26, 2018 at 11:56 am
The blurb under "Radiometric Rock Dating", about shedding electrons is completely wrong. The Actinide series (starts at Actinium) all decay by alpha particle emission, which is a Helium nucleus. "Shedding electrons" is also not beta decay, which involves emission of an electron (and a neutrino) from the nucleus, which then raises the atomic number by one. An example would be Carbon 14 undergoing beta decay and becoming Nitrogen 14.
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