Native Americans Spirituality

[brewer]

[yragnitup]

“Our religion seems foolish to you, but so does yours to me.” – Sitting Bull, 1889

"Unbelievers deserve not only to be separated from the Church, but also...  to be exterminated from the World by death." - Thomas Aquinas (Summa Theologica, 1271).

"They came with a Bible and their religion. They stole our land and crushed our spirit and now tell us we should be thankful to the ‘Lord’ for being saved."  - Chief Pontiac

http://www.skeptic.ca/Native_Religion.htm

[Mystic]

This is the only religion I worry about, that along with Neopaganism (and it can be said Native American version of Neopaganism is the best version out there), because it has a strong basis, that takes a higher philosophy about delegation and leadership to show it doesn't work.

I am currently studying it because I believe Atheism and Christianity etc, aren't intellectually strong to most people who become more and more educated which explains why most people either when become disillusioned with those either become into this neo-pagan type spirituality or just spiritual or come to Islam, but out of the non-official religious believers of God, neo-paganism is more popular and I believe the Native American spirituality is the best out those and will become more popular over time

I have to do more research, it's more challenging ideology to show why Islam is right as opposed to it philosophically then any other I've seen.

[The Grand Nudger]

You think islam is on par with the notion that there are dryads in the trees....lol? We finally agree on something!

[WinterHold]

Add it to the sins the white man did,  eradicating this culture and destroy it. 
Native Americans had an interesting spiritual culture that got erased totally, leaving only ashes behind.

[yragnitup]

You think islam is on par with the notion that there are dryads in the trees....lol?  We finally agree on something! ;)

Not only trees, Muslims only spit on the left cos an angel always sits on his right shoulder.

If he notices the whisper of the Shaytaan during the congregational prayer, how should he spit dryly to his left?

[The Grand Nudger]

Add it to the sins the white man did,  eradicating this culture and destroy it. 
Native Americans had an interesting spiritual culture that got erased totally, leaving only ashes behind.

Added to the pile.  Think of all the interesting middle eastern, mediterranean, and european "spiritual cultures" that no longer exist.  Victims of abraham, the lot of em. A whole world victimized by a religion that simply could not stand to coexist with it;s peers.

As a point of interest, native american culture was unremarkable in the scope of its context. It had vast commonality with shamanic traditions that existed in the stone age worldwide. There were a few remarkable outliers, but most of them the spanish dealt with right off the bat. It;s a massive irony, to me..that I find the worlds religions past and present interesting in a way that the religious...well...just don;t. I understand why. On some level..every religious person thinks that they already know what their magic book is talking about..further..that their magic book got it right. I, otoh..wonder what their day to day life was like such that these common narratives expressed themselves in precisely the way they did over spans of time and geography.

[WinterHold]

You think islam is on par with the notion that there are dryads in the trees....lol?  We finally agree on something!

Not only trees, Muslims only spit on the left cos an angel always sits on his right shoulder.

[/url][url=https://islamqa.info/en/144942]If he notices the whisper of the Shaytaan during the congregational prayer, how should he spit dryly to his left?

*TFOOOOOO*
*Spits on the right*

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Add it to the sins the white man did,  eradicating this culture and destroy it. 
Native Americans had an interesting spiritual culture that got erased totally, leaving only ashes behind.

Added to the pile.  Think of all the interesting middle eastern, mediterranean, and european "spiritual cultures" that no longer exist.  Victims of abraham, the lot of em.  A whole world victimized by a religion that simply could not stand to coexist with it;s peers.

As a point of interest, native american culture was unremarkable in the scope of its context.  It had vast commonality with shamanic traditions that existed in the stone age worldwide.  There were a few remarkable outliers, but most of them the spanish dealt with right off the bat.  It;s a massive irony, to me..that I find the worlds religions past and present interesting in a way that the religious...well...just don;t.  I understand why.  On some level..every religious person thinks that they already know what their magic book is talking about..further..that their magic book got it right.  I, otoh..wonder what their day to day life was like such that these common narratives expressed themselves in precisely the way they did over spans of time and geography.

The religious are "one of the favorite units" of an invasion force: they are mostly deployed to act as human shields for those behind them.

The Spaniards who led the Conquest of America did not set sail to spread christianity: they sailed to rob the native Americans off their gold. It became a trademark for the Conquistadors, and one of their favorite "units" to deploy to battles are the religious human shields thinking they fight for God.

Also it was a great justification for killing Millions of natives, make them go extinct, then take their gold, becoming the "USA" and "South America".

Every human thinks they know something better than somebody else: including belief. That's why there is a book to judge between us: the rules are really written explicitly. If you want the truth, just read the book.

[The Grand Nudger]

[WinterHold]

Not only trees, Muslims only spit on the left cos an angel always sits on his right shoulder.

[/url][url=https://islamqa.info/en/144942]If he notices the whisper of the Shaytaan during the congregational prayer, how should he spit dryly to his left?

*TFOOOOOO*
*Spits on the right*

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I am very very sorry, I made a mistake.
There are angels on the right and left of each of us, writing down our deeds; it's in the Quran:

Sura 50, The Quran:
Sahih International

(16) And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein
(17) When the two receivers receive, seated on the right and on the left.
(18) Man does not utter any word except that with him is an observer prepared [to record].