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RE: The name of God thread.
June 24, 2018 at 10:16 pm
(June 24, 2018 at 10:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 24, 2018 at 10:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's upon me to prove only if it's upon you to listen. You say the problem is me not proving, but I think the problem is you guys don't know how to listen.
Anyways, this is what I'm attempting to do. So you are going to give me time and let elaborate on how the Quran proves the proper path and proves itself. I’ve been listening for two years, MK. What evidence do you have that the claims of the Quran are actually true?
P.S. You can’t cite the Quran in your response because that would be circular reasoning.
I would have to show through reasoning Quran is from God. I would have to cite Quran for that, though citing alone would not be a proof. It's the reasoning and proper use of reflection and logic, that will prove it to be from God. Yet citing is part of the needed proof.
So far we are let me count, 10 verses in, and haven't completed the 10th verse.
You are going to have be patient.
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 24, 2018 at 10:29 pm
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(June 24, 2018 at 10:16 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (June 24, 2018 at 10:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’ve been listening for two years, MK. What evidence do you have that the claims of the Quran are actually true?
P.S. You can’t cite the Quran in your response because that would be circular reasoning.
I would have to show through reasoning Quran is from God.
No. What you need to show is external, corroborating evidence that the Quran is from god. Using Quran to prove Quran is a blatant circle.
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 24, 2018 at 11:06 pm
MK: Your continued and repetitive obsession with religious content/preaching combined with you not comprehending or ignoring the social comments/ques being given by forum members appears to indicate that you might be regressing in your treatment.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 24, 2018 at 11:17 pm
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 24, 2018 at 11:30 pm
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 25, 2018 at 1:40 pm
(June 24, 2018 at 10:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 24, 2018 at 10:16 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I would have to show through reasoning Quran is from God.
No. What you need to show is external, corroborating evidence that the Quran is from god. Using Quran to prove Quran is a blatant circle.
Reasoning is eternal, and Quran being perfect reasoning and from God through reasoning can be attested to be from God.
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 25, 2018 at 1:52 pm
Quote: The proof of God proves God.
Check yourself into a mental hospital, MK. Whatever drugs they are giving you are not strong enough.
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 25, 2018 at 1:56 pm
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(June 25, 2018 at 1:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (June 24, 2018 at 10:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: No. What you need to show is external, corroborating evidence that the Quran is from god. Using Quran to prove Quran is a blatant circle.
Reasoning is eternal, and Quran being perfect reasoning and from God through reasoning can be attested to be from God.
I will explain this to you once more. If you want non-believers to accept the claims of the Quran, then you must provide external corroborating evidence that these claims are true. That means you cannot use the Quran to prove the truth of the Quran’s claims. If you attempt to do so, you are engaging in a question begging fallacy.
Also, there is no such thing as Quran reasoning; there is simply reasoning, either good or bad, and believing in a book of supernatural stories about a god without any external corroborating evidence which supports the truth of its claims is a bad reason.
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 25, 2018 at 2:21 pm
Yup. MK is stuck in the loop!
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RE: The name of God thread.
June 25, 2018 at 2:45 pm
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