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Battle of Vukovar
RE: Battle of Vukovar
(July 23, 2022 at 2:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(July 23, 2022 at 2:10 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: I had English for 9 years and Latin for 7.
English is easier than Latin by a huge margin. The fact that you seem to have problems with learning English does not make Latin easier.

I have read that around 25% of the words in English descend from Latin (via other languages), even though English is not a Romance language.

I think it is more than 25%. The words "descend", "via" and "language" all come from Latin, just in the sentence you wrote.
RE: Battle of Vukovar
A lot of medical and scientic language is based in Latin. But people don't speak it conversationally any more.

I can't quite understand why that's so hard to grasp.

A quick Google search says that about 60% of English words come ffrom Latin...but we still don't speak it. It's roots of words for the most part. It's been adapted. The original Latin is not used on the regular...at least not since the Catholic mass moved from it. Wonder why they changed from Latin? Maybe because people don't speak it any more...just a thought.
  
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RE: Battle of Vukovar
(July 23, 2022 at 2:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: A lot of medical and scientic language is based in Latin. But people don't speak it conversationally any more.

I can't quite understand why that's so hard to grasp.

A quick Google search says that about 60% of English words come from Latin...but we still don't speak it. It's roots of words for the most part. It's been adapted. The original Latin is not used on the regular...at least not since the Catholic mass moved from it. Wonder why they changed from Latin? Maybe because people don't speak it any more...just a thought.

During the Middle Ages, the majority of the population did not speak Latin; it was the language of academia -- to be admitted to the universities in the High Middle Ages, one had to have fluency in Latin.
RE: Battle of Vukovar
(July 23, 2022 at 2:22 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(July 23, 2022 at 2:17 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: What about Tito? Do you like that guy?

No, I do not like Tito. He is the guy behind the Bleiburg Massacre.

But was he? Besides, weren't those soldiers killed/ executed at Bleiburg fighting on the side of the Nazis? I mean, their fate was sad but they were not exactly innocent. Were they not trying to kill Tito just days ago before the incident?

Besides, if Richard Burton and Sophia Loren hang out with the guy he could have been that bad.
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RE: Battle of Vukovar
(July 23, 2022 at 2:28 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(July 23, 2022 at 2:10 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: I had English for 9 years and Latin for 7.
English is easier than Latin by a huge margin. The fact that you seem to have problems with learning English does not make Latin easier.
I know that, after just two years of studying Latin, I was able to make an 11-minutes-long video about afterlife in it. After two years of studying English, I could barely understand anything. Maybe you were not taught Latin the right way. How exactly did you study it?

English is a notably difficult language.  Tons of loanwords, complicated rules, extensive modifiers - but it's very expressive.  Tradeoffs. Learning languages other than your native is it's own can of worms. You mentioned words that sound the same to you, but to native english speakers they're clear as day and mean entirely different things (though, things like then/than your/you're are commonly miswritten)and we'd find the same in your language (and every other). Sometimes, there may even be physiological differences between populations that account for these troubles, particularly in the development of the inner ear.
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RE: Battle of Vukovar


RE: Battle of Vukovar
(July 23, 2022 at 2:28 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(July 23, 2022 at 2:10 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: I had English for 9 years and Latin for 7.
English is easier than Latin by a huge margin. The fact that you seem to have problems with learning English does not make Latin easier.
Maybe you were not taught Latin the right way. How exactly did you study it?
At school, major classes, by very, very good teachers, and i was pretty darn good at it.
You seem to think a language is hard just because you suck at it. Have you considered that sometimes people just suck at something?

You are a programmer afaik. To do programming, you need structured thinking. Latin is a very structured language. I always liked to compare Latin to math. Its (at least to me and the people i studied with) not like other languages (also maybe because its a *dead* language and can only be trained in class, not in life). 

You also mentioned that you were writing in Latin or making videos. Have you ever read and translated original documents? I did Cicero, Sallust, Caesar and Catull.
Caesar was straight forward. Cicero, wooo hooo, philosophy and rhetoric combined, in a foreign language. A whole difference to Caesar. Then there was (crazy) Catullus. F.ing weirdo latin poet. A wholly different ballpark to anything else.

Its like comparing reading the news in the times, then Shakespeare and then ..... idontknow some fucking crazy poet on dope.
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RE: Battle of Vukovar
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RE: Battle of Vukovar
(July 3, 2018 at 11:28 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: And why? The Bible is full of testimonies of the people who supposedly witnessed miracles. If it's not reasonable to believe them, why would it be reasonable to believe the supposed witnesses of the Vukovar battle?

Battles are fairly mundane things, while miracles are, well, miraculous.

Radical skepticism is boring.

RE: Battle of Vukovar
(July 24, 2022 at 10:26 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(July 3, 2018 at 11:28 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: And why? The Bible is full of testimonies of the people who supposedly witnessed miracles. If it's not reasonable to believe them, why would it be reasonable to believe the supposed witnesses of the Vukovar battle?

Battles are fairly mundane things, while miracles are, well, miraculous.

Radical skepticism is boring.

We know that battles happen and that people witness such, almost often from opposite sides. It is the disinterested, multiple attestation of battles that lend to their historical plausibility, and especially, the political, linguistic, economic, archeological and dynastic changes that persist for generations and centuries after a battle.



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