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I have returned
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RE: I have returned
(December 11, 2010 at 4:58 am)TruthWorthy Wrote:
Zen Badger Wrote:Welcome back mate,

What happened to the catholicism??

Do you remember how I posted on about having to believe (in God) in order to consider it truthfully? I took up Catholicism because of a dream I had of my baptism - it was actually a memory. It turned out that I have an exceptionally strong long term memory. In the time that passed from my last visit, I discovered that I have autism - would you fucking believe that!? I'm high functioning. That's why my language in posts was/is skewed.
To top it off, I only learned that I have aspergers through my participation in a course on applied social psychology; something which some members probably remember me going on about, I posted content heavily laden with jargon.
I spent a lot of time coming to grips with 26 years of being unaware.

Glad you got some answers Truthworthy....aspergers' is rather prevalent in the population nowadays. The fact that you are doing a uni course gives me some hope.


Welcome back and thank you
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#12
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(December 13, 2010 at 2:29 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:



Glad you got some answers Truthworthy....aspergers' is rather prevalent in the population nowadays. The fact that you are doing a uni course gives me some hope.


Welcome back and thank you

I'm technically not doing it at the moment because I'm still on deferral. Big Grin I'm going back to study soon, I'm just waiting on a text book to be returned from someone I lent it out to last term. I don't like my chances of that happening because they've conveniently stopped contacting me . . . Confused Fall Honestly, such people are a disgrace to humanity.
You should have hope too! There is plenty of room in the world for people who aspire/strive for greatness.
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#13
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So what did you learn during your time as a believer and why did you ultimately reject it?
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#14
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(December 13, 2010 at 3:24 am)theVOID Wrote: So what did you learn during your time as a believer and why did you ultimately reject it?

That subjective experience has challenges of it's own. It's harder to challenge perception when you refuse to look at the world differently. That isn't to say that there isn't value in having beliefs because there must be personal value in the world as experienced through them, but at the same time, there's clearly a lot less to be understood when you're willing to deny a whole lot, refuse to see differently.
I have a natural tendency to think logically, through having AS, in that what I associate doesn't automatically imply another association - ie. I run like DOS. My thoughts were that subjective reasoning must have a different system of thinkiing. I was right about that. Mostly the reasoning is inductive. My deductive reason doesn't sustain that belief satisfactorily. In short, my head rules my heart.
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#15
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It hardly matters from which unverified perspective you chose to look at the world though does it? Be it naturalistic or theistic, a perspective without verification is just as erroneous as any other.

You say that having beliefs has value, but only if you value comfort over truth, for those who value having true beliefs the methodology is paramount regardless of the subjective value that can be squeezed out, thus even if the truth was to be horrific those who value having true beliefs would reject an ignorant bliss. Also, the ability to "see differently" has no bearing on whether or not you are "seeing correctly" which again ties into the comfort vs justification debate.

The heart is nothing but a pump, so I sure hope your head has control Smile

So for what reasons did you reject theism? You found it to be epistemologically unjustified?
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#16
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Here's a burning question:

Did you actually get diagnosed with autism and asperger's by a medical professional?

The reason I ask is that there are entire communities of self-diagnosed asperger's cases on the internet, and many, if not most of them are full of crap and don't want to, or fail to take responsibility for their actions by blaming it on this disease they've made for themselves.

I'm not placing you in that group, I just want to know if you've gotten any opinions from those in the medical field about this.
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#17
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I must not have joined by the time you left, so...Welcome back anyway! Pleasure to meet you, sir!
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