Geocentric Earth

[Angrboda]

Auto-didacticism.... fail.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.

[Angrboda]

You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.

That would actually require getting off his drunken ass and actually examining the evidence instead of simply pontificating ex cathedra. Somehow I don't think that's in his play book.

[Abaddon_ire]

Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?

Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?

Obligatory

[Anomalocaris]

Auto-didacticism.... fail.

The auto part certainly didn’t fail.

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Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?

Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?

Ur, because the new moon is as unlit as the rest of black sky we see at night, so during the day it will look exactly as how the rest of sky looks during the day?

Less self-assurance, more study and reflection.   At where you are, there is no possibility that would could fail to help a lot every time.

If the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun, you might think the moon would actually get more fully lit as it moves to the other side of the sun and closer to new moon, rather than less fully lit? No? Not seeing it yet?

Okay, the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun, you might think the moon would always look smaller than the sun when it is approaching new moon, because it is further away from earth, then other times? No? Still not seeing it?

[Haipule]

Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?

Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?

You can't be that stupid (or maybe you can, not for me to judge).

You don't see the new moon during the day because the sun isn't shining on it.  When you see the moon in any other phase during daylight hours, you only see the part illuminated by the sun, the rest of the moon - even though still there - looks like the rest of the sky.

You grasp that the sun is substantially more distant from us than the moon is, correct?

Boru

So what your saying is that during a new moon the moon is being eclipsed by earth? Because the moon orbits the earth. So, no reflection. Therefore, not visible to the naked eye. And because, only the earth facing the moon could see it otherwise, anyway, only with a enhanced eye looking in the correct place. I'm cool with that. 

But then, I should be able to see the new moon, using a telescope, when I am rotated to face the eclipsed new moon. Of course, the other side of earth has no chance at such an observation. How am I doing so far?

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Auto-didacticism.... fail.

The auto part certainly didn’t fail.

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Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?

Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?

Ur, because the new moon is as unlit as the rest of black sky we see at night, so during the day it will look exactly as how the rest of sky looks during the day?

Less self-assurance, more study and reflection.   At where you are, there is no possibility that would could fail to help a lot every time.

If the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun,  you might think the moon would actually get more fully lit as it moves to the other side of the sun and closer to new moon, rather than less fully lit?   No?   Not seeing it yet?

Okay, the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun, you might think the moon would always look smaller than the sun when it is approaching new moon, because it is further away from earth, then other times?  No?   Still not seeing it?

I love you smart ass!

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You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.

Thank you for that! I'll see if I can find some google images.

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You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.

That would actually require getting off his drunken ass and actually examining the evidence instead of simply pontificating ex cathedra.  Somehow I don't think that's in his play book.

Drunken ass? I resemble that!

Sorry but, off-work has a two martini minimum! Aloha Friday has a three drink minimum and weekends have no minimum or limit!

Why do I drink so many martinis? Because I just love olives!

I often post under the influence. How could you tell?

[Cyberman]

How am I doing so far?

Very, very badly.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So what your saying is that during a new moon the moon is being eclipsed by earth? Because the moon orbits the earth. So, no reflection. Therefore, not visible to the naked eye. And because, only the earth facing the moon could see it otherwise, anyway, only with a enhanced eye looking in the correct place. I'm cool with that. 

But then, I should be able to see the new moon, using a telescope, when I am rotated to face the eclipsed new moon. Of course, the other side of earth has no chance at such an observation. How am I doing so far?

Who said anything about an eclipse?  The moon isn't being occluded, it simply isn't in the proper position to shine by light reflected by the Earth.

Boru

[Haipule]

Well, upon further study, a full moon occurs when the earth is between the moon and the sun. And, a new moon is when the moon is in between the sun and the earth. Really? I was just trying to understand the electro magnetic effect of a "line up" having observed it with tides. That's all. Again, I defy gravity with this: FUCK GRAVITY! This doesn't indicate I know a damned thing about nature--YET!

[downbeatplumb]

Yup he's gone full unhinged

Don't have a tizzy Tiz! I'm trying establish that theology and science are two sides of the same stupid coin of "knowledge" all gleaned from the universities of "How to be a moron". All taught by "PHD's" who only learned how to suck mental dick of a PHD so they can have a "PHD"! 

What is the difference between theology and science? NOTHING! As stupid is what stupid thinks. There is a vast difference between knowledge and understanding.


Nature is a hippy chick, from Pa'ia, with hairy arm pits saying, "peace and love"! "Interplay and symphony"!


If you can't accept her simple modality: then you will only invent rocket science! Yet, every rocket is sent according to a egocentrism model of the universe! WHY?

Don't fuck with the hippy chick!

Have you heard of astrology. It has an ology in it so it must be science right! well no actually.

There is also scientology, it has an ology but is to science what a sludge pit is to fine dining. See how sometimes words can be misleading.

In English you can have nice people and Nice the place and it even sounds differently when you say it.