Massacre of the Innocents

[Abaddon_ire]

Convenient, that, is it not? Confronted with someone who has read your bible, you run and hide behind baseless accusations. I even offered you to point out where the babble states that jebus was two when the magi showed up. You couldn't do it. I offered you the chance to point out where the babble stated that the magi set out two years early and you couldn't do it. I offered you the chance to point out where on earth this two year distant journey happened and you couldn't do it. I even suggested where you were going next, to Mat 2:16 and that really annoyed you because you know full well where that leads.

What are you afraid of? "The truth shall set you frep"

(some may grok that one)

Here you go.

Except Huggy, who clearly has not read more than a single book.

16 When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under, in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi.

Clearly Herod didn't just randomly pick two years old, he determined the age from the Magi's own testimony.

Two years old and under. Why did you dishonestly leave out the "and under" part? And how does it feel that I correctly predicted that you would resort to Mat 2:16? And that I know your holey babble better than you?

Furthermore do you think the Magi immediately hopped on a camel and trekked off through the desert once they saw the star without provisioning for the journey?

I never suggested any such thing. You may take your man of straw and suck your BS up with same.

What you posted does not necessarily imply what you are claiming.  So, fail.

It is implied through simple reading comprehension and critical thinking.

Both of which you seem to lack.

[Minimalist]

Well anyone who thinks the fucking bible is real is obviously a little short in the common sense department!

[Huggy Bear]

Here you go.


Clearly Herod didn't just randomly pick two years old, he determined the age from the Magi's own testimony.

Furthermore do you think the Magi immediately hopped on a camel and trekked off through the desert once they saw the star without provisioning for the journey?

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It is implied through simple reading comprehension and critical thinking.

What you are engaged in is called 'speculation' and can readily be dismissed as such.  Perhaps Herod simply wanted a fudge factor.  As it turns out, the magi weren't playing straight with Herod, so perhaps a bit of caution was warranted.  Regardless, what the magi actually told him and why he felt it was necessary to give the order he did is simply unrecorded.  Your speculation in the matter is worth dick.

Wow, 2 years is really farfetched...

Let see the journey from Egypt took Moses 40 years to go something like 250 miles.

Homer wrote that it took Ulysses 10 years to travel essentially 600 miles (by boat I may add).

But two years to travel from Iraq/Iran to Jerusalem is a somehow a bridge too far.

[Angrboda]

What you are engaged in is called 'speculation' and can readily be dismissed as such.  Perhaps Herod simply wanted a fudge factor.  As it turns out, the magi weren't playing straight with Herod, so perhaps a bit of caution was warranted.  Regardless, what the magi actually told him and why he felt it was necessary to give the order he did is simply unrecorded.  Your speculation in the matter is worth dick.

Wow, 2 years is really farfetched...

Let see the journey from Egypt took Moses 40 years to go something like 250 miles.

Homer wrote that it took Ulysses 10 years to travel essentially 600 miles (by boat I may add).

But two years to travel from Iraq/Iran to Jerusalem is a somehow a bridge too far.

You fail to get the point. Why am I not surprised?

[Graufreud]

What you are engaged in is called 'speculation' and can readily be dismissed as such.  Perhaps Herod simply wanted a fudge factor.  As it turns out, the magi weren't playing straight with Herod, so perhaps a bit of caution was warranted.  Regardless, what the magi actually told him and why he felt it was necessary to give the order he did is simply unrecorded.  Your speculation in the matter is worth dick.

Wow, 2 years is really farfetched...

Let see the journey from Egypt took Moses 40 years to go something like 250 miles.

Homer wrote that it took Ulysses 10 years to travel essentially 600 miles (by boat I may add).

But two years to travel from Iraq/Iran to Jerusalem is a somehow a bridge too far.

So, you are comparing Greek mythology with Jewish-Christian mythology to tell us that there is not difference, because it is all mythology? 

[Minimalist]

Let see the journey from Egypt took Moses 40 years to go something like 250 miles.

Except the Exodus tale is horseshit, too. Huggy.  Why do you think you can sustain one fairy tale by quoting another?  Does reality frighten you that much?

[Huggy Bear]

Wow, 2 years is really farfetched...

Let see the journey from Egypt took Moses 40 years to go something like 250 miles.

Homer wrote that it took Ulysses 10 years to travel essentially 600 miles (by boat I may add).

But two years to travel from Iraq/Iran to Jerusalem is a somehow a bridge too far.

So, you are comparing Greek mythology with Jewish-Christian mythology to tell us that there is not difference, because it is all mythology? 

No dummy, the truth of the stories is besides the point.

The writers are consistant in that travel took a considerable amout of time.

[Silver]

My concern is this: if there was a two year period between Jesus' birth and the arrival of the three wise men with their gifts, then why does the bible not make mention of such a fact? Rather, theists have always made it seem as though the wise men with their gifts were nearby in order to follow the star to where Jesus had just been born.

[Huggy Bear]

Ok, explain why they met Jesus at a house instead of a stable then?

[Silver]

Ok, explain why they met Jesus at a house instead of a stable then?

First, clarify your question.