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Extermination of Canaanites
#11
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Craig deserves hell.  Too bad there isn't one.
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#12
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Craig is a fraud; he started off sincere, but then, over time, found that he could make millions.
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#13
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There are lots of morons out there and they are all eager to be parted from their money.
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#14
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Named brand versus generic; after 100 years of big pharma ripping people off on that one, it's easy to see why there are those who are still suckers for religious belief.
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#15
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Why is there no epic drama film about conquest of Canaan?
There is Noah for example, and they could make another biblical film...
Only it has to be to the letter and spirit of the bible. 
With women, children and animals speared and cut to pieces. As El YHW commanded it.
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#16
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They wouldn't make any money off of it; kind of like the latest Star Wars film.
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#17
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Except Star Wars is well-written compared to that bible horseshit.
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#18
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(July 20, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Wololo Wrote:
(July 20, 2018 at 4:47 pm)JairCrawford Wrote: I will contest this part of what you said as we do have evidence of yhwh {changed as this fictional being's name in capitals is deeply offensive to all thinking people} being mentioned earlier in an Egyptian stele referring to the Shasu nomads. Thus it is possible yhwh has nomadic origins outside of Kena'an.

[citation needed]

Quote:What does seem evident though is this yhwh's later adoption into the Kena'any pantheon and then recognition as being one and the same as El, the chief creator deity of Kena'an (or who was recognized as such at least during the Ugaritic period).

yhwh only became el after the jews decided to go henotheistic and worship him exclusively, while recognising other gods, such as asherah, yhwh's mistress.

Quote:Also, whether this yhwh started out as a war god is debatable. There are theories just as valid that support a weather deity, moon deity, or desert deity hypothesis.

Do you understand what "lord of hosts" means? Once again, an atheist shows a far deeper and more complete understanding of the abrahamic faith than a person professing belief in that god.

Citation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shasu This is a good starting point on the Shasu nomads. The association with the name YHWH is explained in the section. An old Egyptian papyrus refers both to these Shasu people in the line "... the land of the Shasu of yhw". As for other hypotheses on how the name/deity called YHWH entered Kena'an, check up on the Kenite and Midianite hypotheses. Some hypothesize that YHWH originated in Edom but I doubt that because Edom's patron deity was Qos.

Asherah started out as El's mistress, then eventually became Ba'al Hadad's mistress, then among certain circles, YHWH's mistress. We don't know exactly when the "combining" happened and it is theorized that it happened at different times in different places, namely Yisra'El and Yehuwdah. Many hypothesize that Yehuwdah in the south embraced YHWH sooner than the north did. And yes I understand that this is believed to be an evolution from polytheism to henotheism to monolatry (or is it monolatry to henothiesm? I can't remember) then finally to monotheism.

Yes I do. It means "YHWH of armies". It's obvious that at that time YHWH is being looked at as a war deity. I'm not denying that. But it is doubtful even from a secular argument (which is what I am actually trying to present here, these things do not necessarily fall under what I believe), that YHWH started that way. With the connection with desert nomads and potentially a connection with the moon cult of Sin (see Sinai; also Sin has a possible connection with Egyptian Yah and a very highly plausible connection to the Babylonian moon god worshiped at Haran and Ur), it is doubtful that YHWH started out as a Canaanite war deity. The Ugaritic texts do not even mention YHWH.
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#19
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Whatever yh started out as he seems to have gotten a significant promotion.  I highly recommend William Dever's "Did God Have a Wife."
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#20
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(July 21, 2018 at 8:28 am)Graufreud Wrote: Why is there no epic drama film about conquest of Canaan?
There is Noah for example, and they could make another biblical film...
Only it has to be to the letter and spirit of the bible. 
With women, children and animals speared and cut to pieces. As El YHW commanded it.

You do realise the output of Cecil B DeMille and MGM Studios is of questionable historical accuracy?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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