Why are you rude?

[Fireball]

I didn't create this thread because someone was rude to me.
I just don't understand why it's considered acceptable here to use vile language even if you strongly disagree with your opponents.

I don't understand why so many theists think it's okay to be profoundly rude, so long as they don't use any 'bad words'.

Like quoting meaningless scripture at atheists, telling them they're going to hell to burn for eternity, etc. That's pretty damned rude, and the people (in general) know it, but do it anyway. Might as well be using profanity, afaiac.

[Crossless2.0]

. . . why are many people here are rude?

None of your fucking business, cheesedick!

But why do you ask?

[Abaddon_ire]

I didn't create this thread because someone was rude to me.
I just don't understand why it's considered acceptable here to use vile language even if you strongly disagree with your opponents.

I don't understand why so many theists think it's okay to be profoundly rude, so long as they don't use any 'bad words'.

Well that is the problem. "Blasphemy" (a victimless crime) has been expanded from saying bad things about god by the religious to include particular  words the religious dont like for reasons they are unable to explain.

Take the word "fuck", for example. The religious find that word offensive, which is rather odd since A)the word has nothing to do with any god, and B)it is merely a word, and C)it has, as a word, a wide range of usages all with different meanings.

This is, of course, the nature of language. The C word was originally harmless. Somehow it became synonymous with the female pudenda over time. But vagina remains OK.

"nice" was originally a term applied to the village idiot yet now means the exact opposite.

It often this linguistic detail that trips up bible believers. The words used in the bible do not necessarily mean today what they meant in history.

[Succubus]

[opens Atheist's Guide to the Internet to page 1, line 2]: "Rudeness to theists of all stripes must be evidenced every day". See, it's in the script!

...but I just lurve how many people blanket atheists as being angry. What a canard.

Don't forget our arrogance and lack of humility!
I mean they tell us that via prayer, they are in one on one daily communication with the geezer who created the universe.
That's being humble is it???

[Abaddon_ire]

[opens Atheist's Guide to the Internet to page 1, line 2]: "Rudeness to theists of all stripes must be evidenced every day". See, it's in the script!

...but I just lurve how many people blanket atheists as being angry. What a canard.

Don't forget our arrogance and lack of humility!
I mean they tell us that via prayer, they are in one on one daily communication with the geezer who created the universe.
That's being humble is it???

It's worse. Not only that, they claim their god insist they chuck out all morality and human decency in favour of the god of the bible and his support for genocide, human sacrifice, rape, incest, pedophilia, child murder, and to cap it all unicorns, talking donkeys, talking bushes, talking snakes, and child murder. And while all of that is sanctioned by their hold god in their holy bible, they are perfectly happy to flat out lie and state that such immoral atrocities are not in the holey babble. Then when the verses in question are pointed out in that very book of shit, their next port of call is "out of context", "you are taking it out of context".

Dunno about anyone else, but I fail to see where human sacrifice, rape, genocide, child murder or any of that trash can be taken it any other context than as plainly stated in that evil tome.

The next port of call is that jebus and the NT obviated all those all mosaic laws. Really? There go the ten commandments in that case. Those are part of the Tanakh. The laws of Moses. In the OT. If jebus shut down the OT laws, the 10 are right out being part of the 613 mitzvot.

Ah, the christian will claim, Jebus made a new covenant which obviated the OT commandments. Well, according to the bible, nope.

Then they move along to "oh, well jebus endorsed the ten" another lie. Jebus endorsed 5 of those and none of the ones involved in god according to your bible.

"Ah, they say, Jebus endorsed the golden rule" Nope, the bible authors plagiarised that from much earlier sources. The principle had been around for a long time before jebus. Even then, christians get it wrong. "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" is not about retribution, but about the principle that the punishment should not exceed the crime. A reasonable principle one might think, but it took christianity to entirely fuck it up.

[Succubus]

...Then when the verses in question are pointed out in that very book of shit, their next port of call is "out of context", "you are taking it out of context".

"out of context"

Time to chuck this up again: 

[energizer bunny]

I like it here and I love you in a nonsexual way, but why are many people here are rude?
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Is it abstinence syndrome? Is it because you miss Gawd so much?

Obviously on an online forum people are going to be ruder. They don't have to deal with the person face to face. People are braver, tougher behind the computer screen. 

But it also depends on your level of tolerance. Some people are more sensitive than others and become more easily offended by the slightest criticism.

[ignoramus]

I try not to be rude to people.

I find it upsets my targets a lot more to use terms like religionist, 'your god', christian with a lower c, and to ask awkward questions to point out flaws in what people think.

I don't see that as any more morally wrong than using offensive language. I personally get more offended by offensive ideas and respond in kind.

That's exactly right Mat.

I'm sure Hitler very professionally and politely asked his chain of command to turn on the gas...
Being polite doesn't make you a good person. And likewise, swearing doesn't make you a bad person.
It's all about the message. Don't shoot the postman ... Fallacy #1

[Seraphina]

I like it here and I love you in a nonsexual way, but why are many people here are rude?
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Is it abstinence syndrome? Is it because you miss Gawd so much?

After Christopher Hitchens died, I recall reading news stories with quite a few religious online commenters making crass, hypocritical comments. I wonder why? Is it because he didn't have a deathbed conversion?
 
Are you here to contribute or complain?

-Teresa

[John V]

It does't bother me at all. I merely feel sorry for people who don't have class.

You feel sorry for yourself?

Pretty sure you didn't go out of your way to say "Gawd" because you're kind and classy...