Homophobia

[Amarok]

I didn’t know who James Woods was until this thread. 

Ignorance is not an excuse 

The antics of minor actors are not on my radar.

More like you trying to downplay his influence 

 What I can say is that the disgusting behavior of the Westboro Baptist Church was widely condemned. 

The condemnation is soft ball and never anything  centrally ideological 

That serves as at least one example of self-policing.

Not really its just damage control

[RoadRunner79]

Posts like this would have more credibility if people didnt constantly lump moronic extremists with more moderate Christians who vastly outnumber a vocal fringe.

If only it were easier to tell moderate xtians apart from moronic extremists!

Listening and asking questions, rather than jumping to conclusions, and refusing to re-evaluate your assumptions, may be  a good way to start.

[Amarok]

Listening and asking questions, rather than jumping to conclusions, and refusing to re-evaluate your assumptions, may be  a good way to start.

Nope there is no need because we already have the answer .No conclusions have been jumped to they are totally supported by facts . Nope no assumptions supported conclusions . Your side simply does not the conclusion and is desprate to bury it because as it undermines the Christian rights agenda .

[FatAndFaithless]

Listening and asking questions, rather than jumping to conclusions, and refusing to re-evaluate your assumptions, may be  a good way to start.

Nope there is no need because we already have the answer .No conclusions have been jumped to they are totally supported by facts . Nope no assumptions supported conclusions . Your side simply does not the conclusion and is desprate to bury it because as it undermines the Christian rights agenda .

I mean..there are plenty of Christians that are in full support of gay marriage and all other rights for LGBT folks, so yes, assuming a Christian is anti-gay is jumping to conclusions.

[The Grand Nudger]

The great big silent moderate majority...right?

[Amarok]

Nope there is no need because we already have the answer .No conclusions have been jumped to they are totally supported by facts . Nope no assumptions supported conclusions . Your side simply does not the conclusion and is desprate to bury it because as it undermines the Christian rights agenda .

I mean..there are plenty of Christians that are in full support of gay marriage and all other rights for LGBT folks, so yes, assuming a Christian is anti-gay is jumping to conclusions.

That's why i specified Christian right who overwhelmingly don't support LGBT rights. I said nothing about Christain automatically being anti gay .

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The great big silent moderate majority...right?

They are far from silent they seem to say all the same central talking points as the so called extremists do they just word it nicer .

[The Grand Nudger]

Genteel bigotry is best bigotry.

[Minimalist]

If only it were easier to tell moderate xtians apart from moronic extremists!

Listening and asking questions, rather than jumping to conclusions, and refusing to re-evaluate your assumptions, may be  a good way to start.

If only you could answer them instead of quoting your fucking holy horseshit it might be worthwhile.  But listening to apologists for early Iron Age horseshit is not my cup of tea.

[The Grand Nudger]

Here's the only type of apologism that should ever be applied to the nonsense in question.

"Turns out that some of the people who wrote magic book were ignorant homophobes and didn't speak for god.  Their bad...but we're cool.  We found a few more kernels over here in this pile!"

[Neo-Scholastic]

Posts like this would have more credibility if people didnt constantly lump moronic extremists with more moderate Christians who vastly outnumber a vocal fringe.

Remember the whole Chick-fil-a thing from a few years back? Opposition to gay rights is a widespread phenomenon among contemporary evangelicals. Hordes of people came out and made their position known.

The controversy over homosexual marriage is largely a matter of public policy. Most Christians do indeed oppose it on largely religious grounds. Not all do. There are some secular grounds for opposition to gay marriage as-well. My own position is that marriage is a sacrament and that government should get out of the marriage business entirely; although, it is difficult to imagine how that could even happen given how useful recognition of lawful familial relationships are. A narrowly defined consensus clarifies the legal obligations of family members to each other. Once an institution, like marriage, becomes too elastically defined it ceases to be useful and muddles one’s ability to think clearly about roles and responsibilities unique to a marital relationship. In heated debates, I have called same-sex marriages “pretend marriages” which is definitely an insult but still accurately reflects my belief that same-sex marriages are essentially different from traditional marriages. The same reasons that justify gay marriage undermine any basis for recognizing the concept of marriage itself. The word becomes devoid of content. The issuance of gay-marriages is a massive social experiment. It could later prove to be no big deal and maybe even beneficial for society as a whole but I am very skeptical for now. I suspect that, in general, the further a family’s organization deviates from the traditional nuclear family the less stable and healthy it will be.

The boycotts of Chik-Fil-A were IMHO an attempt to vilify people for not conforming to right-think. The owners’s personal opinions did not affect their business practices. No gays were denied service. No anti-gay slogans were printed on paper cups. But the boycotters could not tolerate the very existence of people who are indeed tolerant, but simply do not enthusiastically affirm homosexual relationships. Many of the people who came out in support of Chik-Fil-A did so as a rebuke of the smear tactics used by Jacobean-style activists.

My Dad goes to a run of the mill Baptist Church where …things like gay marriage and "the homosexual lifestyle" are disapproved of. Apparently because such things denounced in the Bible…But so is divorce. According to Matthew 5:32, not only is divorce forbidden by Jesus, but any woman who remarries commits adultery…But no Baptist in their right mind is going to beat that drum so fervently.

They are correct on both counts because all forms of sexual immorality are considered sinful. Preaching is very much topical. As homosexuality comes to the fore other issues get pushed back. In a post-Christian country, churches are playing whack-a-mole just to keep up with the growing acceptance of falsities and evils. I would say that while issues of gender identity garner the most attention because of their political nature, the biggest issue in the church right now is pornography.