I shouldn't have to try so hard

[RoadRunner79]

So it would seem that you have poor reasons behind you or claims, and largely decided based on your personal increduelity. Would this be accurate?

And I didn’t say anything close to your first paragraph; it must be the voices in your head again!

The earth is 4 billion years old. The universe is 13.8 billion years old. Our species was around long before someone concocted your book of mythology. Our species will not be around 5 billion years from now. That was then, this is now. It was understandable that humans made that crap up in an age of authoritarian kings when they didn't know any better, we know better now.

I don’t see where the age of the earth, has anything to do with the claims being made. Could you expand on this some? Also, we have discussed before, the argument from novelty is a fallacy.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Kit, most people just don't care. They are the religion they were brought up in and have never thought about it. They say the right things and nobody thinks they're "dangerous". They'll sit in front of their 80" TV and hope that God takes care of the planet while lying without concern about anything they want to lie about. They're just passengers on the planet and a burden on the body politic.

[Brian37]

The earth is 4 billion years old. The universe is 13.8 billion years old. Our species was around long before someone concocted your book of mythology. Our species will not be around 5 billion years from now. That was then, this is now. It was understandable that humans made that crap up in an age of authoritarian kings when they didn't know any better, we know better now.

I don’t see where the age of the earth, has anything to do with the claims being made.  Could you expand on this some?  Also, we have discussed before, the argument from novelty is a fallacy.

You cant see the obvious because your wishful thinking for a comic book over rides your ability to be objective.

Donkeys do not talk, men do not pop out of dirt, humans don't poof wine into blood. The earth was not made in 6 days. You do not get to blame us for the crap we were not around to write.

If you can rightfully reject claims of Allah and Vishnu and even Buddha, then you have the capability of pulling your head out of your ass.

AGAIN, that was then, this is now. It was understandable that people made up that crap in antiquity because they didn't know any better. We know better now.

Your lack of understanding is not my baggage. You are going to feel tons better once you realize you don't have to defend an old comic book.

[RoadRunner79]

I don’t see where the age of the earth, has anything to do with the claims being made.  Could you expand on this some?  Also, we have discussed before, the argument from novelty is a fallacy.

You cant see the obvious because your wishful thinking for a comic book over rides your ability to be objective.

Donkeys do not talk, men do not pop out of dirt, humans don't poof wine into blood. The earth was not made in 6 days. You do not get to blame us for the crap we were not around to write.

If you can rightfully reject claims of Allah and Vishnu and even Buddha, then you have the capability of pulling your head out of your ass.

AGAIN, that was then, this is now. It was understandable that people made up that crap in antiquity because they didn't know any better. We know better now.

Your lack of understanding is not my baggage. You are going to feel tons better once you realize you don't have to defend an old comic book.

So your reasons seem to be mostly made up of straw men then. I didn’t say any of that, but just asked why? So far... your claim seems to be mostly based on fluff, feelings and falsities.

[Brian37]

You cant see the obvious because your wishful thinking for a comic book over rides your ability to be objective.

Donkeys do not talk, men do not pop out of dirt, humans don't poof wine into blood. The earth was not made in 6 days. You do not get to blame us for the crap we were not around to write.

If you can rightfully reject claims of Allah and Vishnu and even Buddha, then you have the capability of pulling your head out of your ass.

AGAIN, that was then, this is now. It was understandable that people made up that crap in antiquity because they didn't know any better. We know better now.

Your lack of understanding is not my baggage. You are going to feel tons better once you realize you don't have to defend an old comic book.

So your reasons seem to be mostly made up of straw men then. I didn’t say any of that, but just asked why?   So far... your claim seems to be mostly based on fluff, feelings and falsities.

You are an idiot if you think you are the only religious club whom has apologists who STUPIDLY try to square modern science to old comic books.

https://www.whyislam.org/on-faith/the-qu...science-3/

http://www.hinduismfacts.org/hindu-science

http://thecenterforappliedjudaism.org/

https://www.lionsroar.com/buddhism-scien...ersations/

You, like all thee above are nothing but apologists trying to prop up old mythology.

Your lack of understanding is not my baggage.

[RoadRunner79]

So your reasons seem to be mostly made up of straw men then. I didn’t say any of that, but just asked why?   So far... your claim seems to be mostly based on fluff, feelings and falsities.

You are an idiot if you think you are the only religious club whom has apologists who STUPIDLY try to square modern science to old comic books.

https://www.whyislam.org/on-faith/the-qu...science-3/

http://www.hinduismfacts.org/hindu-science

http://thecenterforappliedjudaism.org/

https://www.lionsroar.com/buddhism-scien...ersations/

You, like all thee above are nothing but apologists trying to prop up old mythology.

Your lack of understanding is not my baggage.

I don't think that you know what an apologist is.   Also, I still didn't say any of that.   I just asked how you came to that conclusion, for instance, what is it you don't think that I understand?  So far, it just seems to be senseless ramblings as one poster used to say, a mile wide, and an inch deep.

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To the OP..... you could try Brian's method on for size.   I don't think that he tries that hard.

[Brian37]

You are an idiot if you think you are the only religious club whom has apologists who STUPIDLY try to square modern science to old comic books.

https://www.whyislam.org/on-faith/the-qu...science-3/

http://www.hinduismfacts.org/hindu-science

http://thecenterforappliedjudaism.org/

https://www.lionsroar.com/buddhism-scien...ersations/

You, like all thee above are nothing but apologists trying to prop up old mythology.

Your lack of understanding is not my baggage.

I don't think that you know what an apologist is.   Also, I still didn't say any of that.   I just asked how you came to that conclusion, for instance, what is it you don't think that I understand?  So far, it just seems to be senseless ramblings as one poster used to say, a mile wide, and an inch deep.

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To the OP..... you could try Brian's method on for size.   I don't think that he tries that hard.

Yes I do, someone who sells crap pretending it is worth something.

Apologists are NOT required in the age of modern science. 

There is no holy writing required in a lab. 

If you are going to argue for an old bronze age deity, sorry, I won't fall for it anymore than you buy claims of Ra, Isis or Horus.

When the Ancient Egyptians made up a sun god, they had more to point at than your invisible sky wizard.

[RoadRunner79]

I don't think that you know what an apologist is.   Also, I still didn't say any of that.   I just asked how you came to that conclusion, for instance, what is it you don't think that I understand?  So far, it just seems to be senseless ramblings as one poster used to say, a mile wide, and an inch deep.

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To the OP..... you could try Brian's method on for size.   I don't think that he tries that hard.

Yes I do, someone who sells crap pretending it is worth something.

Apologists are NOT required in the age of modern science. 

There is no holy writing required in a lab. 

If you are going to argue for an old bronze age deity, sorry, I won't fall for it anymore than you buy claims of Ra, Isis or Horus.

When the Ancient Egyptians made up a sun god, they had more to point at than your invisible sky wizard.

It still doesn't appear that you know what apologists means.  However I find that most do try to address questions posed with a coherent explanation.   I prefer this, rather than you going off in all directions, with the same spiel no matter what the conversation and concerning things that I don't say or believe.  Most of your reasons (which is what I asked)  just seem to be fluff and fallacies.

[KevinM1]

That's the problem with faith.

I shouldn't have to try so hard to attempt an ignorant person of faith that s/he is wrong.

Our lives are riddled with these instances where we try too hard to convince someone else that something should be done differently.

Except that logic should absolutely show reason over routine.

Routine will always be the destruction, for it shows no willingness toward change that respects truth over comfort.

So don't?

This is the only place I talk about atheism.  I don't bother IRL because I know it's just going to lead to pointless conflict because religion is a core part of most people's identity, and they view any criticism of their religion as personal criticism.  It may be illogical, but in my experience, it's true.

If you wanna fight the good fight, donate to secular causes and vote for people trying to push a secular agenda.  Bickering with people won't accomplish anything.

[Mystic]

You make it hard on yourself, otherwise, it's easy!