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Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 9:12 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 27, 2018 at 9:48 am)alpha male Wrote: How would the investigation demonstrate that?

If they can determine the night of the party and the location of the house (which likely belonged to the parents of one of the attendees), they have a basis to make a number of determinations. Were the owners of the house really out of town? Were any of the alleged attendees somewhere else that night? And if an FBI investigation can't turn up the day or location, that means they couldn't find credible evidence of the party; that would tend to back up Kavanaugh's claim that the party never happened.

You know, if the FBI finds evidence that supports Ford's story, that supports Ford's version; and if they don't, that supports Kavanaugh's version. Tricky stuff.
Beta Fail just wants play dumb and pretend it can't be investigated so it won't be so the Republicans can avoid an investigation that will likely find Kavanaugh guilty .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 7:09 am)Brian37 Wrote: The American Bar Association is NOT a political party. It is a entity that sets the standard of promoting quality lawyers and judges. I do not see how anyone should ignore their INDEPENDENT call to re open the investigation of Brett.

Particularly since they had evidenced support of Kavanaugh prior to the hearings.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 9:12 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: You know, if the FBI finds evidence that supports Ford's story, that supports Ford's version; and if they don't, that supports Kavanaugh's version. Tricky stuff.

If the bolded were actually the case, I'd support an investigation if it could be done in a reasonable amount of time. But, others here have said that isn't the case - absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. You're the exception. There's no corroborating evidence now and the left thinks he's guilty. An investigation's failure to find corroborating evidence wouldn't change that.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 9:22 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(September 28, 2018 at 9:13 am)alpha male Wrote: How do they do that?


LMAO. What makes you think they'd stick to relevant questions? They asked Kavanaugh about fart jokes for crying out loud.

Now I’m laughing my ass off. They asked him about the meaning of some slang . . . and he lied about it.
Yeah apparently asking him about slang he used in his own writing (something he himself has used as evidence of his innocence) shouldn't be taken seriously because Beta Fail says so and yes he lied under oath about it .

Oh and the slang has nothing to do with farting it's to do with taking drugs and alcohol anally
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 8:38 am)Aroura Wrote: One should care about finding the truth, not just voting for or pushing through people who have unheard and/or uninvestigated accusers.  
Kavanaugh's vote was scheduled before they finished even hearing Ford or Kavanagh's testimony. They have apparently decided not to even look into the other accusation.  And yes, that is a problem.  And if you support or defend the people who will overlook serious allegations, I don't think you are less than human, but I will adamantly say we disagree on more than simple politics.

I can disagree with someone on trade policy, taxes, social security benefits, different drug legalization statuses, and a very long list of things, and that's fine.  These are politics. You can want lower taxes and be a good person.  You can support small government and be a good person.  I am happy to have conservative friends like these.

Treating all humans with basic decency isn't politics, it's just basic decency.  Taking an accusation seriously enough (particularly when there is more than one) to look into more than just asking a few question is basic decency.  Not taking children from their parents without good cause is decency.  Helping people fleeing from violence is decency. Not supporting someone who is ON TAPE admitting to groping women without their permission is decency. Standing up for people who are not part of your in group; LGBT people, other nationalities and races, the opposite gender, and people of other religious beliefs is basic decency. I consider none of the above to be political stances, but human ones.  To degrade children in cages to a political stance is disgusting.  To not care about it enough to even vote a little differently to change it is worse.  Pro life.  Pfah.  

So yeah, you can still be a human.  You just aren't a very good one, imho.  I can only take solace that your position is actually the minority, and that your idiocy only continues to win out through cheating.  So enjoy it while it lasts.  I still have hope that good people will win out in the long run.  In the short term, we are all very, very fucked.

Not buying it.

1. The only people benefiting from tax breaks are millionaires and billionaires. The crumb cuts the rest of us get are overwhelmed by inflation and the cuts the top gets.

2. "Small government" to what extent and how? If you can accept our government could not work with only 13 representatives today like we had when we started, then you have to accept that as our population grows the government has to grow with it.

3. If your goal is to create more independence, the cheapest way is to create it DIRECTLY through wages that meet the cost of living. That is what will reduce taxes on all classes and pay down the dept long term.

4. Go study the policies that existed between the end of WW2  and 1980 and the tax rate also. 

Taxes are not robbery. Taxes are what built our middle class, built our modern bridges and highways, got us too the moon. Social safety nets like social security and medicare are also not robbery. A stable neighbor isn't a matter of them wanting to rob you, but a matter of knowing that stability long term is beneficial to everyone. 

The less stress an individual has, or a family has, and the more balance they have the less social problems and health problems they have, the more they can be involved with their kids.

None of what I typed above is a call for a nanny state. Nobody is or should suggest the end of the private sector. But when the majority of the stock market is a monopoly owned by the top 2%, it should be clear that they have no interest in our current climate of caring about the other two classes.

If you think even just on economics the GOP or Libertarians are right, you are fooling yourself. There is a way to create less dependency but the way we are doing it now is not the way.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
I'm going to be a real man and trust a woman's accusation that she was harassed by a man, especially during a horrific climate where a Republican man sitting in the White House has absolutely no respect for women.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 8:50 am)alpha male Wrote:
(September 28, 2018 at 8:42 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: alpha, that 54% of Republicans would vote to confirm Kavanaugh even if Ford's allegations are true and Kavanaugh is a liar is ethically inexcusable.  I don't know that this makes them less than human, but something is very wrong with them.  That you continue to defend them as if this were not the case makes something very wrong with you.

1. Can you link to the wording of the poll?

"If the charge of sexual assault during a party in high school by
Christine Blasey Ford against Brett Kavanaugh is true, do you
think Brett Kavanaugh:"

The potential answers are, should be confirmed, should not be confirmed, and unsure.

See here.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 9:30 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(September 28, 2018 at 8:50 am)alpha male Wrote: 1. Can you link to the wording of the poll?

"If the charge of sexual assault during a party in high school by
Christine Blasey Ford against Brett Kavanaugh  is true, do you
think Brett Kavanaugh:"

The potential answers are, should be confirmed, should not be confirmed, and unsure.

See here.
Now watch Beta Fail move the goal post or cook up a lie to save face

(September 28, 2018 at 9:29 am)Kit Wrote: I'm going to be a real man and trust a woman's accusation that she was harassed by a man, especially during a horrific climate where a Republican man sitting in the White House has absolutely no respect for women.
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Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 9:30 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(September 28, 2018 at 8:50 am)alpha male Wrote: 1. Can you link to the wording of the poll?

"If the charge of sexual assault during a party in high school by
Christine Blasey Ford against Brett Kavanaugh  is true, do you
think Brett Kavanaugh:"

The potential answers are, should be confirmed, should not be confirmed, and unsure.

See here.

So you added in "and Kavanaugh is a liar."
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(September 28, 2018 at 8:31 am)Divinity Wrote: Conservatives defend rapists because they like raping people.  If their own children were raped, they'd tell them to get over it and have a beer with the rapist.  That's the kind of people these people are.  Unless, of course, their rapist was a black democrat.  Then they'd crucify him.

It has to be a certain kind of rapist to be acceptable: wealthy, privileged, educated, male, white, parents are 'pillars of the community'...though not all those boxes have to be ticked, they all help. So many of the GOP's conservatives have been replaced by authoritarians (the parties were about equal in that respect before the Southern Strategy) that almost anything is considered acceptable among them as long as it's done by one they consider to be 'above them'.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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