Refugee thread!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

RDF's closure was worse, I think. A whole poo-poo load of people there, just dumped.

[Ravenshire]

Well excuuuuuuuse me for trying ta help a TTAer, Joods.

--really: sorry to recommend contacting staff it it is no longer an issue. I guess I didn't catch that part.

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I figured out the emoticon limit one day when I was quoting Little Rik. lol

You know, we should have emoticons that are named for people. The little dancing penis would be a suitable lil rik...

If we had a quote mine smiley summoned by the tag :huggy: I might tale him off ignore just to be able to use it

[Aliza]

RDF's closure was worse, I think. A whole poo-poo load of people there, just dumped.

I found this reply from Dawkins about closing his forum: http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2010/...rums-died/ . It should be noted that there was apparently an apology that he issued, but the article's link leads to a 404. Does anyone have a link to that apology?

The original statement issued by Dawkins is hurtful and offensive and it illustrates how little he regarded the people who posted on those forums.

[Dom]

I'm wondering if he means me and others moaning about Seth Andrews.

I don't think any of us have any issues with anyone complaining about Seth.  In fact one of us should probably even go ahead and start a thread specifically dedicated to how we feel about Seth.  Not about TPTSNBN, not about the people there, but strictly about that traitor, Seth.

He's going to have a rude awakening when he realizes that his site soon will hardly be found in the search engines. It rose up because the many visitors who came and spent large chunks of time there every day. The search engines will notice the lack of visitors and demote the site.

[LastPoet]

I am safe to say that the only reasons this forum could go down, was if Tibs suddenly died. This forum is his 10 yo baby. For my part I will forever hold the fort down. I know for a fact that he holded it with his own money in rougher times. That should mean something.

[The Valkyrie]

I am safe to say that the only reasons this forum could go down, was if Tibs suddenly died. This forum is his 10 yo baby. For my part I will forever hold the fort down. I know for a fact that he holded it with his own money in rougher times. That should mean something.

This.

I’ve found a second home here.

Out of my cold dead hands...

[Ravenshire]

Well, TTA has shut down officially now, despite some effort to keep it going in some format. In the long run, it was the right choice. Sad to see so many friends didn't want to make the jump to this place, but happy to see so many did

Looks like I'll be staying for the long haul now

TTA? What is the TTA that you speak of? There is only the forum that shall not be named TFTSNBN. Seth should henceforth be known as Lord Sethdemort.

... I need to change my forum title.

(my bold)

He who shall only be called names?

[Shell B]

I am safe to say that the only reasons this forum could go down, was if Tibs suddenly died. This forum is his 10 yo baby. For my part I will forever hold the fort down. I know for a fact that he holded it with his own money in rougher times. That should mean something.

He's not going to suddenly die, but the forum wouldn't close even if he did.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Word. There’s a good team here remember! Including his wife!

[Dr H]

Yet, from the perspective of Meliorism, no.  The important component (the knowledge and wisdom) has gone. The town council wanted to build a by-pass and some things had to go.  But there is a reason why even uninhabited medieval castles or Edwardian palaces don't get demolished.  That forum was an historical record, a reference library; recorded and time-stamped.  It had an identity of its own.

This act was more than vandalism, not just carving a love-heart into a tree, it was the destruction of the tree itself. It was the digital version of genocide... memeocide.

Like Alexander destroying the Avesta, like the demise of the Library of Alexandria, like ISIS bulldozing Nineveh, like the fire at the National Museum of Brazil... future historians will have nothing but a footnote and some salvaged wreckage to work with.

<shrug>  TTA was a great forum, well managed, and full of interesting people.  Still -- maybe it's my Buddhist background --  I never expected it to last forever.  

I agree that the casual tearing down of a long-standing community of that intricacy is, in some sense, irresponsible.  And the rapidity with which it was done was just plain rude.  It doesn't seem unreasonable that Seth could have given something like six months notice, so that there would have been time to explore the option of possibly relocating en masse, rather than having to jump overboard and swim for our lives.

Still . . . things change.  When I was very young I had actual "pen pals" -- people with whom I exchanged real paper letters, via post.  Eventually we all grew up and one by one stopped writing to each other.  Did anyone preserve all those adolescent missives somewhere, for posterity?  I've no idea.  If they did, it might be mildly interesting, but I never really expected anything like that.  It was fun while it lasted, then we moved on to something else.  

When the Amazon fora died, I was a little disgruntled, but many of us found a new home in TTA, and that was good for a while.   Some never did reappear; we remember them, but move on.  C'est la vie.


As far as destroying the historical record, or burning the library, I wouldn't be so sure about that.  For all convenient practical purposes that's the way it may be for us.  But TTA had international participation.  All those posts went through a lot of servers to circulate among the members.  It would be hard to believe that most, if not all of the content hasn't been backed up dozens, if not hundreds of times, in multiple places.  We may never see any of it again, but it's not too difficult for me to imagine some future digital archeologist unearthing the bulk of my posts on, say, single malt -- replete in all their glorious misspellings and typos -- at some distant future date.

Well, hell -- that's one future archeologist that will at least have a job, and not have to live on the streets selling drugs.  That counts for something.