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October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am (This post was last modified: October 7, 2018 at 10:44 am by Mystic.)
What is God?
It/He/She is that which the path is heading to but can never fully reach yet is the basis and source of it's value,
What is the Path?
It's the course we must all take and is a arrow/pointer to the ultimate being and manifestation of virtues in their perfect balance.
Where is the course located?
It's light God has vested in a human and brought out to the world in scripture and legacy of knowledge explaining the scripture, that human is our leader.
How can we know that human?
Through miracles/proof or a scripture that is in a form of a miracle/proof.
How can we recognize a miracle to be a miracle?
Through reasoning and honesty to oneself.
What if one has read all scriptures but is not impressed?
That is fine, good effort and good on you to read them, but the problem maybe something else, perhaps there is something sinister trying to blind you to the amazing nature of scriptures and prevent you from linking verses to each other and seeing the flow of scripture.
How to come to scripture?
Just keep trying, come with effort, don't give up, keep reflecting, and balance your criticism with arguing for it as well, and see where that balanced view leads.
Who is God?
He is the Lord of the Prophets and Angels, the one they point to in truth and which you aren't to mix the opposite path with his path, lest you equate good and evil, and value both uncleanness and the blessed light at an equal level.
"God/s" deities in our entire species history are nothing more than a protection of our own human qualities put down in fictional super hero form and falsely believed to be fact.
October 7, 2018 at 11:21 am (This post was last modified: October 7, 2018 at 11:22 am by LastPoet.)
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
What is God?
It/He/She is that which the path is heading to but can never fully reach yet is the basis and source of it's value,
What is the Path?
It's the course we must all take and is a arrow/pointer to the ultimate being and manifestation of virtues in their perfect balance.
Where is the course located?
It's light God has vested in a human and brought out to the world in scripture and legacy of knowledge explaining the scripture, that human is our leader.
How can we know that human?
Through miracles/proof or a scripture that is in a form of a miracle/proof.
How can we recognize a miracle to be a miracle?
Through reasoning and honesty to oneself.
What if one has read all scriptures but is not impressed?
That is fine, good effort and good on you to read them, but the problem maybe something else, perhaps there is something sinister trying to blind you to the amazing nature of scriptures and prevent you from linking verses to each other and seeing the flow of scripture.
How to come to scripture?
Just keep trying, come with effort, don't give up, keep reflecting, and balance your criticism with arguing for it as well, and see where that balanced view leads.
Who is God?
He is the Lord of the Prophets and Angels, the one they point to in truth and which you aren't to mix the opposite path with his path, lest you equate good and evil, and value both uncleanness and the blessed light at an equal level.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: What is God?
It/He/She is that which the path is heading to but can never fully reach yet is the basis and source of it's value,
He/she/it/housecat/leprechaun is a mere figment of your imagination.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: What is the Path?
It's the course we must all take and is a arrow/pointer to the ultimate being and manifestation of virtues in their perfect balance.
Bollocks
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Where is the course located?
It's light God has vested in a human and brought out to the world in scripture and legacy of knowledge explaining the scripture, that human is our leader.
Actually it's a rock in my garden, why not? Or possibly my cat.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: How can we know that human?
Through miracles/proof or a scripture that is in a form of a miracle/proof.
There are no demonstrated miracles ever. At best, there are unfounded claims of miracles.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: How can we recognize a miracle to be a miracle?
Through reasoning and honesty to oneself.
Reason and honesty lead to rejecting all miraculous claims. Apparently, you have neither of these traits.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: What if one has read all scriptures but is not impressed?
That is fine, good effort and good on you to read them, but the problem maybe something else, perhaps there is something sinister trying to blind you to the amazing nature of scriptures and prevent you from linking verses to each other and seeing the flow of scripture.
I have read them. They are utterly useless except perhaps when the TP runs out.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: How to come to scripture?
Just keep trying, come with effort, don't give up, keep reflecting, and balance your criticism with arguing for it as well, and see where that balanced view leads.
No. Reading it multiple times does not improve it. In fact, it gets worse.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Who is God?
He is the Lord of the Prophets and Angels, the one they point to in truth and which you aren't to mix the opposite path with his path, lest you equate good and evil, and value both uncleanness and the blessed light at an equal level.
And a final baseless assertion that your magic sky fairy is real without any evidence whatsoever. How lame. If there is actual evil in the world, it originates from people like you who willfully propagate this kind of superstitious crap.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: He is the Lord of the Prophets and Angels, the one they point to in truth and which you aren't to mix the opposite path with his path, lest you equate good and evil, and value both uncleanness and the blessed light at an equal level.
Because of your culture you inevitably fall into the trap of unintentional prejudice and therefore base your idea of who god is supposed to be from ancient texts and traditional beliefs, but he is just one of many millions of gods claimed to be real by sincere and people.
Alexander the Great was a man who changed the world by conquering the Persian Empire and spreading Greek culture deep into Asia. He was also a god--at least that's what many people said at the time. You, MK, and most religious people today probably reject that he is a god and consider Alexander to have been nothing more than a human who was feared and revered in ancient times. Of course, Alexander was probably just a flesh-and-blood man, but how can we know for sure more than two thousand years after his reign? Maybe he was a god. Perhaps those who lived then know better than us. Muslims and Christians who want to push Alexander off his god pedestal have to consider how they feel when people do the same to Jesus and Allah for similar reasons.
Who are you to say otherwise? By what right do you correct their beliefs all these years later?
An atheist may not be convinced that Allah exists, for example, but she won't deny that Allah qualifies as a god in human culture. For many Christians, I'm sure it might seem absurd to think of King Tut, Julius Caesar, and David Koresh as gods, but on what grounds can they be dismissed? Just as no atheist has ever disproved the existence of the God of Abraham, no Christian has ever proved the nonexistence of the millions of gods various other religious people have believed in throughout history.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: legacy of knowledge explaining the scripture, that human is our leader.
Of course, religions are based on the words of authority figures and not based on proof, good evidence, and scientifically verifiable claims. Divine revelations and "supernaturally inspired" writings cannot be verified to everyone’s satisfaction. This obviously leaves a lot of room for interpretation, debate, judgment, opinion, and disagreement. It’s like the Wild West of the human mind. Anything goes.
(October 7, 2018 at 10:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote: How can we recognize a miracle to be a miracle?
Through reasoning and honesty to oneself.
Yeah just like Hindus honestly see miracle of milk-drinking statues of the god Ganesha as proof that gods of Christian and Muslim are fake. Attempting to prove one god is real over all the others by citing miracles works well if one is tucked safely inside the bubble of his own religion and is unaware that believers belonging to contradictory religions have been doing the same for thousands of years. The gods may change, but the game remains the same.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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