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If you were accused but were innocent ...
#31
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
I probably wouldn't be all that innocent.  But fuck 'em.  Let's see them prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
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#32
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
(December 3, 2018 at 7:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I probably wouldn't be all that innocent.  But fuck 'em.  Let's see them prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

"We have video of you at the RNC with a minigun shooting down the delegates!"

"Pre-emptive self defence and doing a public service."

"Yeah, fair enough. Case dismissed."

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#33
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
No comment.
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#34
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
(December 3, 2018 at 7:38 pm)Marozz Wrote: No comment.

Gonna guess...Mountjoy?

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#35
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
Blackmail the prosecutor, obviously.
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#36
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
(December 3, 2018 at 7:46 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 3, 2018 at 7:38 pm)Marozz Wrote: No comment.

Gonna guess...Mountjoy?

Boru

Ah...the Joy. Same area as your old gaff. Maghaberry?
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#37
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
Nah, I had it softer. Magilligan.

Boru
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#38
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
I got 6 months at "hard labor" in the Navy. Easiest (only) time I ever did, that brig. I worked harder in the engine room, by far. And, oh yes, I was guilty as fuck.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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#39
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
(December 3, 2018 at 8:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nah, I had it softer. Magilligan.

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Island?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#40
RE: If you were accused but were innocent ...
(December 3, 2018 at 6:01 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: I would like to add that false accusations of rape are extremely rare and you shouldn't lose any sleep over it. If you were accused falsely for whatever dumb reason, no big deal, the lack of DNA evidence will exonerate you, not to mention having an alibi.

A while back, I took studies on false accusations of rape and made an estimate of how common they are.

(April 27, 2018 at 10:07 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: I figured out that this is a good place to bring up the actual rates of false accusations and how likely they are to apply to Bill's case:

In the aftermath of George Takei being accused of sexual misconduct, I gave an estimate of how frequent false rape accusations are, using stats from RAINN that estimate 321,500 people get sexually assaulted in America (one every 98 seconds, and roughly 1% of the population every year GODDAM) and for every 1000, 341 will report it to the police. Roughly 109,632 reports per year. I found a study by the British Home Office (the biggest I was able to find) that roughly 2.5% were false. However, a while back, I thought about that to myself, and wondered if the numbers really applied to America. After all, we're a nation that could spend over a year and a half mulling the decision over, and still believe that the best choice for leader of the free world is an orangutan with all the political sensitivity of Nikolai Stavrogin and all the finesse of a WWE wrestling heel. Maybe it could be higher. So, I looked further, and I found a study that was even bigger and focused on America. It stated that the rate of false accusations is 5.5%.

109632*.055=6,030 cases per year. (One every 87 minutes, 8 seconds). Needless to say, this is not nothing.

However, this one doesn't break it down further by motivations, but from what I've been able to gather from my research, it seems that the most common scenario for such accusations tends to be that a young girl is caught with a boyfriend their parents don't like and claim he raped her because they're afraid of the consequences of what would happen if she stuck to her guns and told the truth (see Mayella Ewell). And I suspect that, if it's treated strictly as a false rape accusation, an accusation where the rape unquestionably occurred but the wrong person ended up being accused (see the Central Park Five) would also be common among these cases. What isn't terribly common, however, is malicious accusation, deliberately accusing someone falsely to destroy their reputation. It does indeed happen, but it's not common...

Yes, especially in comparison with the number of rapes that occur (one false accusation for every 53 actual rapes), they're not terribly common, but I wouldn't  say something that happens 33 times every two days is "Extremely rare."

Back to the OP, I'd probably say the best solution, especially if the accusation has been made public, is to explain exactly why they're false, but, the fact remains that, if people have already decided they think you're guilty, literally everything you can say and do can be spun as proof positive that you're guilty. Just look at Amanda Knox. Without knowing the full facts of the case, what's the difference between what a legitimately innocent person would do and what a remorseless psychopath with Bill Cosby levels of charisma would do? Trick question: there isn't one.

Here's a YouTuber using a review of a Simpsons episode as a springboard to talk about the intricacies behind the issue. While I don't agree with all the things he says about it (especially in the follow-up episode), he does a fairly good job of pointing out the depressingly no-win nature of the problem, even if he does give short shrift to the other side of the coin (the omnipresence of rape culture that A: Actually happens, and B: causes us to have such a reaction to it that, when we do care enough about it to try and fix it, we can easily go to the opposite extreme):



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