Hemispherectomy?

[Dmitry1983]

Dmitry, what is your idea of what consciousness is?

Something that qualia/subjective experience is part of.

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..How are reports from the patient anything except subjective experience?

Is there anything anybody could possibly say to you that you would accept as being directly observable evidence of subjective experience generated by the brain?

Behavior and reports from patients are

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie

[I_am_not_mafia]

That didn't answer my question Dmitry.
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Is there anything anybody could possibly say to you that you would accept as being directly observable evidence of subjective experience generated by the brain?

[Dmitry1983]

Behavior, brain activity and reports from patients are not evidence of subjective experience.

  And you still haven't provided any evidence for your belief that the brain is merely a transceiver.  

AFAIK brain damage/alterations to brain chemistry can't generate new qualia(new colors for example) which means that qualia is likely being generated somewhere outside of brain.

[Mr.Obvious]

Let me guess. The transceiving signal is undetectable by science?

If I lock myself in a 100 foot thick lead lined vault 5 kilometers under ground ... Will I be unconscious? Why not?

Yes.

You run out of air after a while.

[Dmitry1983]

That didn't answer my question Dmitry.
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Is there anything anybody could possibly say to you that you would accept as being directly observable evidence of subjective experience generated by the brain?

No, because scientists can't distinguish between p-zombie and conscious person.

[I_am_not_mafia]

  And you still haven't provided any evidence for your belief that the brain is merely a transceiver.  

AFAIK brain damage/alterations to brain chemistry can't generate new qualia(new colors for example) which means that qualia is likely being generated somewhere outside of brain.

Have you ever tried altering your own brain chemistry using drugs to generate new qualia?

If not, then how would you know?

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That didn't answer my question Dmitry.
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Is there anything anybody could possibly say to you that you would accept as being directly observable evidence of subjective experience generated by the brain?

No, because scientists can't distinguish between p-zombie and conscious person.

Right. As I guessed.

You've decided on what you want to believe and that you aren't going to accept any evidence to the contrary.

So why should we bother trying to change your mind?

Or for that matter, even listening to you?

[Dmitry1983]

If not, then how would you know?

Show me scientific studies where new qualia is generated.

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No, because scientists can't distinguish between p-zombie and conscious person.

Right. As I guessed.

You've decided on what you want to believe and that you aren't going to accept any evidence to the contrary.

So why should we bother trying to change your mind?

Or for that matter, even listening to you?

So you believe that p-zombies don't exist. Can you prove it scientifically?

[I_am_not_mafia]

If not, then how would you know?

Show me scientific studies where new qualia is generated.

How would you recognise qualia being generated?

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So you believe that p-zombies don't exist. Can you prove it scientifically?

I never claimed that either p-zombies exist or don't exist. Because I am not making a claim there is no burden of proof on me.

I am just asking you questions to demonstrate that from the outset you are not prepared to listen to any evidence whatever we may present so there is no reason for us to bother debating with you.

[FatAndFaithless]

That didn't answer my question Dmitry.
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Is there anything anybody could possibly say to you that you would accept as being directly observable evidence of subjective experience generated by the brain?

No, because scientists can't distinguish between p-zombie and conscious person.

So the thread is over.  There is nothing that would change your mind, so there's no reason to continue any discussion on the subject.

[Dmitry1983]

Show me scientific studies where new qualia is generated.

How would you recognise qualia being generated?

By asking patients do they perceive new colors.

So you believe that p-zombies don't exist. Can you prove it scientifically?

I never claimed that either p-zombies exist or don't exist. Because I am not making a claim there is no burden of proof on me.

I am just asking you questions to demonstrate that from the outset you are not prepared to listen to any evidence whatever we may present so there is no reason for us to bother debating with you.

As long as it's not scientifically proven that p-zombies don't exist reports from patients can't be reliable evidence of subjective experience.