KAFIR

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[BrianSoddingBoru4]

It also means 'nigger'.  Just thought you should know.

Boru

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[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Talk to South Africans, then. 'Kafir' is a racial slur, the use of which is actionable under law.

Boru

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Talk to South Africans, then. 'Kafir' is a racial slur, the use of which is actionable under law.

Boru

A lot of people say that "you shouldn't use the word because you never know the state of somebody's faith"; but I think it is just an excuse to dodge famous verses in the Quran that say officially who a believer is, and a non-believer is.

Moreover if somebody is atheist, they are literally saying that they don't believe in anything, so that law is wrong in my opinion and needs revision.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Moreover if somebody is atheist, they are literally saying that they don't believe in anything, so that law is wrong in my opinion and needs revision.

I'm an atheist and I believe in a LOT of things, so you can take your opinion, fold it til it's nothing but corners, and shove it in your oubliette.

While you're about it, you should read the entire Wikipedia article you linked.

Boru

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Moreover if somebody is atheist, they are literally saying that they don't believe in anything, so that law is wrong in my opinion and needs revision.

I'm an atheist and I believe in a LOT of things, so you can take your opinion, fold it til it's nothing but corners, and shove it in your oubliette.

While you're about it, you should read the entire Wikipedia article you linked.

Boru

Opinion insertion hurts a lot; it can tear your anus too. So I dislike it and won't do it.

But you are an atheist, so you are defined by google to be:

atheist
/ˈeɪθɪɪst/
noun
noun: atheist; plural noun: atheists
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
"he is a committed atheist"
synonyms:
non-believer, non-theist, disbeliever, unbeliever, heretic, sceptic, doubter, doubting Thomas, agnostic, infidel, irreligious person, heathen, pagan, freethinker, libertine, nihilist; More

AKA you're a Kaffir. I'm not that weak to avoid words that ring better than the others. Kaffir rhymes and rings better than the bulky "unbeliever".

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Opinion insertion hurts a lot; it can tear your anus too. So I dislike it and won't do it.

I don't think you should either.  Be awful to get a paper cut in such a tender area.

atheist
/ˈeɪθɪɪst/
noun
noun: atheist; plural noun: atheists
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
"he is a committed atheist"
synonyms:
non-believer, non-theist, disbeliever, unbeliever, heretic, sceptic, doubter, doubting Thomas, agnostic, infidel, irreligious person, heathen, pagan, freethinker, libertine, nihilist; More

But nothing there says that atheists 'literally...don't believe in anything', which was your contention.

AKA you're a Kaffir.

You give the impression (and I sincerely hope I'm wrong about this) that you know the current meaning of 'kaffir' but are using the pretense of the historical meaning to give yourself a pass.  This is like people who contend that 'nigger' isn't a vile, hateful word because it once meant 'Negro'.

Boru

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And just as important - the Lithuanian - bjaurybè.....

Loosely - a dickhead... A toad...

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atheist
/ˈeɪθɪɪst/
noun
noun: atheist; plural noun: atheists
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
"he is a committed atheist"
synonyms:
non-believer, non-theist, disbeliever, unbeliever, heretic, sceptic, doubter, doubting Thomas, agnostic, infidel, irreligious person, heathen, pagan, freethinker, libertine, nihilist; More

But nothing there says that atheists 'literally...don't believe in anything', which was your contention.

My very obvious context was speaking about the "religious" state; you can see this sentence for example from the OP:

AtlasS33 Said:
So when I call somebody "Kafir"; I am simply using an Arabic translation for the English word "unbeliever". Actually; most members on this forum are "Kuffar" or "Non-believers"; we can even translate its name to "Kafir Forum". It's a forum made and built by Kafir members who don't believe in God.

So; are you a "believer" in the existence of God or not? If you aren't a believer, or you rejected the message of Islam, you are an "unbeliever", or a "Kaffir".
How can anybody get around a bold statement like that?

AKA you're a Kaffir.

You give the impression (and I sincerely hope I'm wrong about this) that you know the current meaning of 'kaffir' but are using the pretense of the historical meaning to give yourself a pass.  This is like people who contend that 'nigger' isn't a vile, hateful word because it once meant 'Negro'.

I'm sticking to my OP; the evidence you provide is not sufficient to convince me.

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But nothing there says that atheists 'literally...don't believe in anything', which was your contention.

My very obvious context was speaking about the "religious" state; you can see this sentence for example from the OP:

AtlasS33 Said:
So when I call somebody "Kafir"; I am simply using an Arabic translation for the English word "unbeliever". Actually; most members on this forum are "Kuffar" or "Non-believers"; we can even translate its name to "Kafir Forum". It's a forum made and built by Kafir members who don't believe in God.

So; are you a "believer" in the existence of God or not? If you aren't a believer, or you rejected the message of Islam, you are an "unbeliever", or a "Kaffir".
How can anybody get around a bold statement like that?

You give the impression (and I sincerely hope I'm wrong about this) that you know the current meaning of 'kaffir' but are using the pretense of the historical meaning to give yourself a pass.  This is like people who contend that 'nigger' isn't a vile, hateful word because it once meant 'Negro'.

I'm sticking to my OP; the evidence you provide is not sufficient to convince me.

This sentence is wrong.
It is more accurate to remove it.