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RE: Just fu-king evil!
January 6, 2019 at 1:07 pm
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(January 6, 2019 at 10:45 am)Brian37 Wrote: (January 5, 2019 at 4:14 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status...6366960640
You couldn't get me on that even without the prank. But I am sorry, those railings are not high enough in any case to prevent someone tall enough from flipping over. There should be a domed cover regardless. What are they going to say when, and it will happen, when someone freaks out to the point of accidentally flipping over the side? And what happens if someone with anxiety problems and or heart problems has a heart attack?
If you have balance, anxiety, or heart issues, it might be a good idea to not walk on a glass bridge in the first place.
But it IS China, after all - if someone does a header off the bridge, we aren't likely to hear about it.
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January 6, 2019 at 1:37 pm
Well, theirs is not a nanny state where your safety is concerned, only where your thoughts are concerned.
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RE: Just fu-king evil!
January 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm
(January 6, 2019 at 1:37 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Well, theirs is not a nanny state where your safety is concerned, only where your thoughts are concerned.
No, they are a capitalist country too. Don't try to doge that. The only difference between China and America is that we have a Constitution, and a history of court cases that are supposed to foster anti monopoly laws, though America failed when Reagan started deregulation and union busting. China uses their version of capitalism to reward party loyalists. I will laugh in your face if you try to dare claim China isn't a Capitalist country. They are authoritarian capitalists.
If anything, our American CEOs look at China's exploitation of labor and masturbate over the prospect of treating our workers like theirs.
So if you want to use the word "safety" in this bad argument, we have a GOP that guts funding to regulations that allow coal ash and chemicals to be dumped in our water supply, and allow Wells Fargo to screw over customers, with nothing more than a fine.
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RE: Just fu-king evil!
January 6, 2019 at 2:58 pm
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(January 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (January 6, 2019 at 1:37 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Well, theirs is not a nanny state where your safety is concerned, only where your thoughts are concerned.
No, they are a capitalist country too. Don't try to doge that. The only difference between China and America is that we have a Constitution, and a history of court cases that are supposed to foster anti monopoly laws, though America failed when Reagan started deregulation and union busting. China uses their version of capitalism to reward party loyalists. I will laugh in your face if you try to dare claim China isn't a Capitalist country. They are authoritarian capitalists.
If anything, our American CEOs look at China's exploitation of labor and masturbate over the prospect of treating our workers like theirs.
So if you want to use the word "safety" in this bad argument, we have a GOP that guts funding to regulations that allow coal ash and chemicals to be dumped in our water supply, and allow Wells Fargo to screw over customers, with nothing more than a fine.
No one said China isn't a capitalist country. No one implied China isn't a capitalist country. No one said a word about the GOP, Reagan, constitutions, laws, deregulation, unions, clean water, or Wells Fargo. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised you didn't attempt to drag pickles (sweet vs dill) into a thread about a glass bridge.
All that was said is that China is less concerned with safety than with thought crimes.
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January 6, 2019 at 3:03 pm
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(January 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (January 6, 2019 at 1:37 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Well, theirs is not a nanny state where your safety is concerned, only where your thoughts are concerned.
No, they are a capitalist country too. Don't try to doge that. The only difference between China and America is that we have a Constitution, and a history of court cases that are supposed to foster anti monopoly laws, though America failed when Reagan started deregulation and union busting. China uses their version of capitalism to reward party loyalists. I will laugh in your face if you try to dare claim China isn't a Capitalist country. They are authoritarian capitalists.
If anything, our American CEOs look at China's exploitation of labor and masturbate over the prospect of treating our workers like theirs.
So if you want to use the word "safety" in this bad argument, we have a GOP that guts funding to regulations that allow coal ash and chemicals to be dumped in our water supply, and allow Wells Fargo to screw over customers, with nothing more than a fine.
I am still laughing in your face for the uncounted number of times when your strident editorializing yet again rode so rough shod over factual accuracy as to, yet again. break up Kim Jung-Un’s given name and use it as parts of it were his family name.
More apropos, The American coal industry experiences less than 20 work related fatalities each year. The Chinese coal industry experiences 38,000 work related fatalities each year.
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January 6, 2019 at 3:10 pm
(January 6, 2019 at 3:03 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (January 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, they are a capitalist country too. Don't try to doge that. The only difference between China and America is that we have a Constitution, and a history of court cases that are supposed to foster anti monopoly laws, though America failed when Reagan started deregulation and union busting. China uses their version of capitalism to reward party loyalists. I will laugh in your face if you try to dare claim China isn't a Capitalist country. They are authoritarian capitalists.
If anything, our American CEOs look at China's exploitation of labor and masturbate over the prospect of treating our workers like theirs.
So if you want to use the word "safety" in this bad argument, we have a GOP that guts funding to regulations that allow coal ash and chemicals to be dumped in our water supply, and allow Wells Fargo to screw over customers, with nothing more than a fine.
I am still laughing in your face for the uncounted number of times when your strident editorializing yet again rode so rough shod over factual accuracy as to, yet again. break up Kim Jung-Un’s given name and use it as parts of it were his family name.
More apropos, The American coal industry experiences less than 20 work related fatalities each year. The Chinese coal industry experiences 38,000 work related fatalities each year.
You can talk all you like about China's coal industry, but that is peanuts compared to how may production companies it now takes to make a film. I mean, jaysus, used to be you'd see the Warner Brothers or United Artists or Paramount logo and then the fucking film would start. Now, you get 'Paramount, in association with Winkistinki Entertainment, presents a ShlunkerFilms production of a Grimbleton Arms film by Provolone Brothers, LTD.' I mean come on. And why is it that there seem to be fewer Junior Mints in the box than when I was a kid and the price is through the goddamed roof?
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January 6, 2019 at 4:01 pm
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(January 6, 2019 at 3:03 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (January 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, they are a capitalist country too. Don't try to doge that. The only difference between China and America is that we have a Constitution, and a history of court cases that are supposed to foster anti monopoly laws, though America failed when Reagan started deregulation and union busting. China uses their version of capitalism to reward party loyalists. I will laugh in your face if you try to dare claim China isn't a Capitalist country. They are authoritarian capitalists.
If anything, our American CEOs look at China's exploitation of labor and masturbate over the prospect of treating our workers like theirs.
So if you want to use the word "safety" in this bad argument, we have a GOP that guts funding to regulations that allow coal ash and chemicals to be dumped in our water supply, and allow Wells Fargo to screw over customers, with nothing more than a fine.
I am still laughing in your face for the uncounted number of times when your strident editorializing yet again rode so rough shod over factual accuracy as to, yet again. break up Kim Jung-Un’s given name and use it as parts of it were his family name.
More apropos, The American coal industry experiences less than 20 work related fatalities each year. The Chinese coal industry experiences 38,000 work related fatalities each year.
Bullcrap!
https://www.barreralawfirm.com/Blog/2016...HAs-F.aspx
READ each of the 25, LISTED, non fatal is for each of the occupations listed, not a total of the top 25 listed.
Go read again, non fatal injuries cost workers wages and cost tax payers money, so it isn't just about deaths, so stop lying about it.
Non fatal injuries just for heating/air the article says "6,840"
Construction/painting 3,530
Machinists, 4,990
Electricians 7,790
Non fatal does not mean never debilitating, nor does it mean it doesn't cost the company, worker, or tax payers money. And those are just three of the 25 listed.
And you are talking about trade industry, not all industry. Robbery and assault are part of work place safety in retail and convenience stores. ALL JOBS count not just trade and factory.
https://www.convenience.org/Media/Daily/ND0926175
There is a psychological cost to physical injury and assault, and even in cases where a worker hands over the goods without resisting, that has a psychological effect.
We are safer is not an argument. It does not change if we suddenly gave giant corporations everything they wanted with no strings, we would look like China. And again, we have had led and coal ash and chemicals dumped in our water supply. And that is just pollution. Financially the GOP policies lead to the financial crash under Bush, and is why Wells Fargo only got a fine.
I would hardly call 17,000 robberies(property theft) ,and 8,107 robberis of pizza joints, cab drivers, 7-11s working to a "safe" environment.
If the GOP had it's way they'd get rid of OSHA, and bring back black lung coal mines.
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January 6, 2019 at 6:02 pm
Brain, why do you insist on going off topic? The claim was made that the US coal industry experiences less than 20 work related fatalities per year (this is true - surprised me).
What does your reply have to do with that claim?
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January 7, 2019 at 11:58 am
(January 6, 2019 at 11:42 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (January 6, 2019 at 10:45 am)Brian37 Wrote: You couldn't get me on that even without the prank. But I am sorry, those railings are not high enough in any case to prevent someone tall enough from flipping over. There should be a domed cover regardless. What are they going to say when, and it will happen, when someone freaks out to the point of accidentally flipping over the side? And what happens if someone with anxiety problems and or heart problems has a heart attack?
I'm afraid of heights, but I think that would be fun. I wouldn't miss it.
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January 7, 2019 at 12:07 pm
(January 7, 2019 at 11:58 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (January 6, 2019 at 11:42 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
I'm afraid of heights, but I think that would be fun. I wouldn't miss it. The Sky Box, at the Willis Tower in Chicago, is also worth a look. I'm indifferent to heights, but that first step into the box gave me a rush.
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