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Abiogenesis in the proximity of hydrothermal vents?
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Lacking a time machine to transport humans back 4.5 billion years and hundreds, perhaps even hundreds of thousands, of years, once there, in the deep ocean (not earth btw - earth (dirt) is a consequence of biological life and does not pre-date it) to observe abiogenesis, your conclusive proof will not transpire. Thankfully many can join the dots and think "yup, that's pretty neat and certainly the most plausible explanation currently available."
(January 12, 2019 at 1:27 pm)Editz Wrote: Lacking a time machine to transport humans back 4.5 billion years and hundreds, perhaps even hundreds of thousands, of years, once there, in the deep ocean (not earth btw - earth (dirt) is a consequence of biological life and does not pre-date it) to observe abiogenesis, your conclusive proof will not transpire. Thankfully many can join the dots and think "yup, that's pretty neat and certainly the most plausible explanation currently available." It's one explanation. Yep, agreed. Also agreed that the proof will not transpire due to the nature of the subject. Yay or Nay, it's no fault of anyone to not be able to directly assess it. We just happen to disagree, and it's your right to choose what you want to believe.
The civil nature of your post is esteemed and appreciated, although I must disagree with one element of it in particular. Nobody "chooses" what to believe, about anything. One only believes what one perceives to be the truth.
(January 12, 2019 at 1:50 pm)Editz Wrote: The civil nature of your post is esteemed and appreciated, although I must disagree with one element of it in particular. Nobody "chooses" what to believe, about anything. One only believes what one perceives to be the truth. Thank you. I appreciate your honest approach to dealing with things.
(January 12, 2019 at 1:06 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: "... Then we know inorganic can be formed into organic, based on the Bible's explanation that God formed man from the earth... " Uhm... if that's the case. Why are we Carbon based life forms... And not Silicon/Silicate based life froms? Because, y'know, pretty much most of the planet is made up of silicates and not Carbon. Jus' sayin'.... (January 12, 2019 at 3:58 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:(January 12, 2019 at 1:06 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: "... Then we know inorganic can be formed into organic, based on the Bible's explanation that God formed man from the earth... " Can't say I see the relevance here. Can you either explain or provide a source? Thanks in advance. (January 12, 2019 at 4:37 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(January 12, 2019 at 3:58 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Uhm... if that's the case. From a quick Google-Fu search into the WIkipedia. "....The thicker crust is continental crust, which is less dense and composed of (felsic) sodium, potassium, aluminium silicate rocks, like granit.... " Not a lot of Carbon mentioned in said section on earth's crust/outer bit. Again, jus' sayin'. If we're supposed to made of dirt. Why, then, aren't we currently made of dirt? Not at work. (January 12, 2019 at 4:43 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:(January 12, 2019 at 4:37 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Can't say I see the relevance here. Can you either explain or provide a source? Thanks in advance. Because He breathed into us more than dirt. Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Maybe ask yourself why "dirt" is composed of organic matter. Additionally it contains minerals the human body needs. Which is why we grow food in soil. Those nutrients go into the fruits and vegetables, then we consume them. We die and that organic material goes back into the dirt, which can grow more plants, which the next person can eat. Of course we can also do this through composting waste. One of my cats thinks my raised bed garden is a giant litter box. She goes there, does her business, and buries it. I have no problem letting her do it because I know in a few months that soil will be rich in nutrients when it comes time to plant this year's garden.
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