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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 8, 2011 at 12:22 pm
(February 8, 2011 at 12:11 pm)bjhulk Wrote: (February 8, 2011 at 11:47 am)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah, yeah...every religious nut job swears that HIS GOD is the real one. You are typical of the breed, pal. Deluded.
Grow up. There is no sky daddy looking out for you. You are on your own.
Just because you don't know the true God doesn't mean that there isn't one. You are very selfish to think that no God exists.
Just because a dweeb depends on dreaming about a god to feel he is worth something doesn't mean there is a god. It just means he is worthless whether there is a god or not. You are very selfish to think the likes of you can waste our time with your fantasies.
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 8, 2011 at 12:50 pm
(February 8, 2011 at 12:22 pm)Chuck Wrote: (February 8, 2011 at 12:11 pm)bjhulk Wrote: (February 8, 2011 at 11:47 am)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah, yeah...every religious nut job swears that HIS GOD is the real one. You are typical of the breed, pal. Deluded.
Grow up. There is no sky daddy looking out for you. You are on your own.
Just because you don't know the true God doesn't mean that there isn't one. You are very selfish to think that no God exists.
Just because a dweeb depends on dreaming about a god to feel he is worth something doesn't mean there is a god. It just means he is worthless whether there is a god or not. You are very selfish to think the likes of you can waste our time with your fantasies.
I'm here to condemn your body to death so you can be free to go to the next age and live in a body that can be used for eternity.
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 8, 2011 at 12:52 pm
You are an embarrassment to vertebrates.
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 8, 2011 at 1:00 pm
(February 8, 2011 at 12:52 pm)Chuck Wrote: You are an embarrassment to vertebrates.
You haven't said anything to prove that God don't exist but even if you did, I would know instantly you were lying. No man can prove that God exists or doesn't exist because he's only thoughts. Thoughts don't have mass, energy and they're timeless. Scientists don't even realize their thoughts come from God and that's why they're clueless about where we came from. They worship themselves and all their accomplishments instead of God who could give them understanding of we are.
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 8, 2011 at 1:01 pm
(February 8, 2011 at 12:50 pm)bjhulk Wrote: I'm here to condemn your body to death so you can be free to go to the next age and live in a body that can be used for eternity.
You sound like the twits who burned "heretics" back in the Middle Ages because they thought they were being merciful. They arrogantly believed that by burning their victims they gave them a chance of escaping the fires of hell because they had already experienced flames while alive. Wasn't that nice of them?
Wake up, pal. The only body you're ever going to have is the one you have right now.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 9, 2011 at 2:20 am
(February 8, 2011 at 11:47 am)Minimalist Wrote: (February 8, 2011 at 7:55 am)bjhulk Wrote: (February 7, 2011 at 10:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: "God" is merely the product that religion sells.
And it doesn't even have a money-back guarantee.
God is who planned everything, including false religions to keep everyone deceived.
Yeah, yeah...every religious nut job swears that HIS GOD is the real one. You are typical of the breed, pal. Deluded.
Grow up. There is no sky daddy looking out for you. You are on your own.
Your biggest mistake here is assuming that God, whom Christians believe is the creater of time, space, beginnings, matter, and all else that encompasses life, is nothing more than a guy with the capacity to do magic tricks, if nothing more than to float around above us forever.
God was not created for us. Just because you can't prove the existence of God tangibly does not mean he doesn't exist. Atheists base their beliefs solely on the propositions of science. They forget that science is a limited facility; science itself asserts that you cannot prove anything, merely theorize. Your opinions and assumptions are as provable as the ones of those who believe in God, so why do you think your beliefs are somehow superior? If nothing more, we should be contained to an equal platform of argument, for the purpose of argument's sake. Science has no room for the supernatural, and the existence of God is clearly outside the realm of science.
Atheists are content in the idea that just because science hasn't figured out an appropriate explanation for something, it's obviously still out there (such as how atheistic theories grounded in science contradict so many laws of its own platform, they're thrown to garbage; somehow they're ok with this, because it only shows that scientists haven't yet found the right answer). Yet, because a Christian cannot provide a person with tangible proof in the existence of God, our beliefs are thrown back in our faces. Just because you cannot see something does not mean it doesn't exist. Tired as that line has become to hear, people still seem to look past the infallible truth it indicates.
The idea that we, a product of creation, have any type of right to demand an account or explanation from our Creator is a grossly ignorant and selfish assumption. Did Thomas Edison have to justify himself to a light bulb? People need to get over this idea that we even have the CAPACITY to understand or find the answers to everything..
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 9, 2011 at 3:14 am
(February 9, 2011 at 2:20 am)lcd471357 Wrote: Your biggest mistake here is assuming that God, whom Christians believe is the creater of time, space, beginnings, matter, and all else that encompasses life, is nothing more than a guy with the capacity to do magic tricks, if nothing more than to float around above us forever.
God was not created for us. Just because you can't prove the existence of God tangibly does not mean he doesn't exist. Atheists base their beliefs solely on the propositions of science. They forget that science is a limited facility; science itself asserts that you cannot prove anything, merely theorize. Your opinions and assumptions are as provable as the ones of those who believe in God, so why do you think your beliefs are somehow superior? If nothing more, we should be contained to an equal platform of argument, for the purpose of argument's sake. Science has no room for the supernatural, and the existence of God is clearly outside the realm of science.
Atheists are content in the idea that just because science hasn't figured out an appropriate explanation for something, it's obviously still out there (such as how atheistic theories grounded in science contradict so many laws of its own platform, they're thrown to garbage; somehow they're ok with this, because it only shows that scientists haven't yet found the right answer). Yet, because a Christian cannot provide a person with tangible proof in the existence of God, our beliefs are thrown back in our faces. Just because you cannot see something does not mean it doesn't exist. Tired as that line has become to hear, people still seem to look past the infallible truth it indicates.
The idea that we, a product of creation, have any type of right to demand an account or explanation from our Creator is a grossly ignorant and selfish assumption. Did Thomas Edison have to justify himself to a light bulb? People need to get over this idea that we even have the CAPACITY to understand or find the answers to everything..
Which is tiresome that anyone keeps bringing these points up. It's not even just that god isn't provable through science, but also that there's no distinguishment between you or anyone's idea of god from anyone else's or even the idea that he doesn't exist. They're all the same. All of them have equal validity given that there are no indicating factors of any kind of there being 'infallible truth' or even the mere existance of this or any other similar being.
The fact that you can't prove god through science and because god hasn't proven himself through any other way just indicates that the idea of god - any god - is just as substantive as any other figment of our collective imaginations. As such, atheists tend to not believe in him for this reason - because there's no difference between belief in god and belief in any other god and belief in superhero comic book characters or any other fictional character.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 9, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Quote:Your biggest mistake here is assuming that God, whom Christians believe is the creater of time, space, beginnings, matter, and all else that encompasses life, is nothing more than a guy with the capacity to do magic tricks, if nothing more than to float around above us forever.
And your biggest mistake is accepting the inane idea that there is a god at all. See how that works?
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 9, 2011 at 12:10 pm
(February 9, 2011 at 2:20 am)lcd471357 Wrote: Your biggest mistake here is assuming that God, whom Christians believe is the creater of time, space, beginnings, matter, and all else that encompasses life, is nothing more than a guy with the capacity to do magic tricks, if nothing more than to float around above us forever.
YOUR biggest mistake is assuming there is some invisible man in the sky watching everything you do every second of your life.
Quote:God was not created for us.
The concept of "God" was created by ignorant stone age people who couldn't explain the natural world around them. What caused thunder? God! What caused the tides? God! What caused earthquakes? God! Why did people get sick and die? God was punishing them!
"God" was an easy explanation for things ancient people couldn't possibly comprehend. So what's your excuse?
Quote:Just because you can't prove the existence of God tangibly does not mean he doesn't exist.
Are you really going to pull out this lame argument here?
Quote:Atheists base their beliefs solely on the propositions of science. They forget that science is a limited facility; science itself asserts that you cannot prove anything, merely theorize.
Science deals with reality. Religion deals with woo-woo.
Quote:If nothing more, we should be contained to an equal platform of argument, for the purpose of argument's sake.
I'm sure you think so. Would you also think that you should "be contained to an equal platform of argument" with a six year old who believes Santa Claus is real?
Quote:Science has no room for the supernatural, and the existence of God is clearly outside the realm of science.
Agreed.
Quote:Atheists are content in the idea that just because science hasn't figured out an appropriate explanation for something, it's obviously still out there
Science has provided explanations for many, many things. These explanations have led to the development of medicines, computers, airplanes, medical procedures, space exploration, etc, etc... What has religion provided an explanation for that has improved our lives?
Quote:(such as how atheistic theories grounded in science contradict so many laws of its own platform, they're thrown to garbage; somehow they're ok with this, because it only shows that scientists haven't yet found the right answer)
Examples?
Quote:Yet, because a Christian cannot provide a person with tangible proof in the existence of God, our beliefs are thrown back in our faces.
There are people who believe all sorts of weird shit. There are folks who genuinely believe space aliens are living among us. They can't prove it! But they're sure it's true! If one of these whackos was trying to convince you of this, would you accept it or would you throw it back in their face?
Quote:Just because you cannot see something does not mean it doesn't exist.
This is the second time you've dredged up this horrible argument.
Quote:Tired as that line has become to hear,
You don't have anything better?
Quote:people still seem to look past the infallible truth it indicates.
Yeah, people who accept unsubstantiated bullshit as fact.
Quote:The idea that we, a product of creation, have any type of right to demand an account or explanation from our Creator is a grossly ignorant and selfish assumption.
Typical mealy-mouthed platitude from an apologist who needs to explain why your deity never shows himself.
Quote:Did Thomas Edison have to justify himself to a light bulb?
Uh..... a light bulb is not a living thing.
Quote:People need to get over this idea that we even have the CAPACITY to understand or find the answers to everything..
People need to get over this idea that there's some all powerful deity who cares about us.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: Evidence for Christianity
February 9, 2011 at 2:59 pm
(February 9, 2011 at 2:20 am)lcd471357 Wrote: The idea that we, a product of creation, have any type of right to demand an account or explanation from our Creator is a grossly ignorant and selfish assumption. Did Thomas Edison have to justify himself to a light bulb? People need to get over this idea that we even have the CAPACITY to understand or find the answers to everything..
Pardon me, but the religion of my childhood had a slightly less demeaning attitude towards men's minds and believed we had at least something of a capacity to understand. I am slightly more than a bundle of filaments, glass, and metal.
If I created a creature with the capacity for free will, thought, and wonder, I should hope I'd have the foresight to expect it to ask me why I allowed all the shit to go down around it and to it that did.
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