Quran and Hadiths

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I hope gave you at least satisfactory answers to your questions.

Yes, thank you. I think I now have a little better understanding of how you see Islam,which was my hope.

Wa Salaam.

[Rayaan]

[Minimalist]

There is already an overwhelming evidence of Muhammad's existence (aside from the Quran itself).

Let's see a list.

Remember, your own mythology is that he died c 530. What records do you have from the period 500-530 that indicate such a person ever existed?

[Rayaan]

Don't kid yourself, Min, You know that Muhammad existed.

You're telling me to give a list of evidences after taking a small quote from my entire post, even though I already I gave the evidences in my earlier post (which you didn't reply to), and then, you're saying that my own mythology is that he died in ca 530 which I don't even know where you got that from in the first place. I know that it's definitely not in the Quran. However, it's a historical fact he lived from a period of 570 to 632 AD (not 500 to 530). You'll find it on google.com after a quick search.

[Minimalist]

Then I'll gladly accept historical references to him from 600-632 AD but I already know you don't have any of those eithe because no one else does.

The legend of William Tell is a myth too. It started much later than mohammad and is still nothing but bullshit.

[muhtesem insan]

Then I'll gladly accept historical references to him from 600-632 AD but I already know you don't have any of those eithe because no one else does.

The legend of William Tell is a myth too. It started much later than mohammad and is still nothing but bullshit.

AFAIK arabs (in that age) were still nomadics tribes and our knowledge of that era mostly based on oral tradition. But still there are some non-islamic sources dating back to 7th century only decades after his death.
History does not always provide detailed hard copied sources but fragmented pieces. Muhammad's authenticty is not an ongoing debate amongst historians.

[Minimalist]

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Threatening to cut the heads off scholars who dispute Islamic folklore is not generally considered a reputable scientific position.

Not usually, no, but you have to admit it's a wonderfully effective way of silencing a specific critic.----especially if you're willing to carry out the threat, which many Muslims are happy,nay thrilled,to do.

The Catholic church had it own version for centuries.It was called the auto da fe. According to Wiki,they were very colourful events.Almost everyone had a jolly good time.The exception seems to have been the guest of honour.He was seldom jolly,what with being burned alive and all.Seems the ingrates were often unmoved at having their souls saved. Probably too busy screaming in agony.

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[Rayaan]

Rayaan.. I am still waiting for you to refute turan dursun's article.

You'll see my reply whenever I'm ready. I'm still learning also. I usually work at a slower pace but I didn't forget about that.