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Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
March 14, 2019 at 7:12 am
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2019 at 7:13 am by Fake Messiah.)
I was watching this "important" speech by Ronald Reagan and his supposed measures to fight AIDS where it was even one of the first times Reagan even said the word "AIDS" in public
And what he proposes in the speech is ridiculous: His measures for fighting AIDS are testing heterosexuals at marriage license bureaus, but very few of these people were infected with the virus and very few lives would be saved. There is little talk about education and no guarantees or civil rights protection for those who tested positive. Not to mention that he never even mentioned gays. So it seems Reagan’s program did very little to actually stop the spread of AIDS.
It kind of all looks like a giant joke, especially since he basically started the speech with a joke (imagine addressing a topic of a holocaust and then telling jokes). And not just a joke but a creepy joke about charity committee and how wealthiest man in town doesn't give money to sick people - you know like Reagan's handling of AIDS: He hadn't ascribed much importance or funding priority to any other non-armaments program during his presidency, why should he have given any to AIDS?
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 3, 2019 at 12:32 pm
Watch the movie, "And the Band Played On". Ronald Reagan did everything in his power not to talk about AIDS.
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 3, 2019 at 12:34 pm
Guess it wasn' t in the script....
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 3, 2019 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2019 at 5:18 pm by bennyboy.)
I guess you weren't alive in the 80s. There was a lot of fear and very little understanding at that time about AIDS and homosexuality.
You're not going to see this bit today, I'm pretty sure.
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 3, 2019 at 5:50 pm
Just did, didn't we?
Poor Eddy, alot of his material didn't exactly age well, considering...
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 3, 2019 at 7:11 pm
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Look, love him or hate him, you can't say Reagan gave two shits about how AIDS affected gays or how crack affected inner cities....
Wait...
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 3, 2019 at 10:19 pm
(April 3, 2019 at 5:50 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Just did, didn't we?
Poor Eddy, alot of his material didn't exactly age well, considering...
Yeah, I'm surprised he's managed to dodge the Cosby effect so far tbh.
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 5, 2019 at 5:58 am
(April 3, 2019 at 12:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Watch the movie, "And the Band Played On". Ronald Reagan did everything in his power not to talk about AIDS.
Yeah, Reagan funneled the money to rich people so they can buy more yachts and then when Rock Hudson died and it was suddenly discovered that virus was already pandemic in the nation, they just blamed the victims with the help of Christian organizations. I mean when Rock Hudson died there were already something like 12,000 Americans dead or dying of AIDS and hundreds of thousands more were infected.
What is also interesting is that writer of the book "And the Band Played On" died of AIDS shortly after the book was published.
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 5, 2019 at 3:10 pm
(April 5, 2019 at 5:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (April 3, 2019 at 12:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Watch the movie, "And the Band Played On". Ronald Reagan did everything in his power not to talk about AIDS.
Yeah, Reagan funneled the money to rich people so they can buy more yachts and then when Rock Hudson died and it was suddenly discovered that virus was already pandemic in the nation, they just blamed the victims with the help of Christian organizations. I mean when Rock Hudson died there were already something like 12,000 Americans dead or dying of AIDS and hundreds of thousands more were infected.
What is also interesting is that writer of the book "And the Band Played On" died of AIDS shortly after the book was published.
So sad; I did not know that.
I remember the early 1980s very well, especially, the 1980 election where Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter. What a loss for our nation and for the World! At that time I was a brainwashed evangelical Christian, and we were all gathered in our pastor's parsonage, watching the returns on national TV. It was the Evangelicals who propelled Reagan into power, whom, after which, he ignored; the AIDS victims were too much of a political hot potato for him. I was taught that AIDS was a punishment from God against the sin of homosexuality.
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RE: Ronald Reagan AIDS speech, 1987
April 5, 2019 at 4:27 pm
Kudos to C Everett Koop - Reagan era Surgeon General. Reagan wanted him to downplay the use of condoms to prevent the spread of HIV. Koop did anyway, very possibly saving lives when there was no treatment.
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