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(May 1, 2019 at 4:22 pm)Losty Wrote: Or people could just stop using it because it has absolutely no purpose that isn’t derogatory and hateful. There is no other use for the word.
Like people have stopped using all other derogatory words?
Clearly, from my previous post, that word has had non-derogatory and non-hateful purposes. If it's branded like that, nowadays, it's because there's been a drive to consider it as such. If that has happened, then the opposite can also happen, if enough people decide to do so.
(May 1, 2019 at 4:22 pm)Losty Wrote: Or people could just stop using it because it has absolutely no purpose that isn’t derogatory and hateful. There is no other use for the word.
Like people have stopped using all other derogatory words?
Clearly, from my previous post, that word has had non-derogatory and non-hateful purposes. If it's branded like that, nowadays, it's because there's been a drive to consider it as such. If that has happened, then the opposite can also happen, if enough people decide to do so.
That’s cool. We’re not going to allow it and if you choose to use it in a “non hateful” way, please use the asterisk or say “n-word”. Thanks
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
You guys can troll the thread all you want. The rule ain’t goin’ anywhere. Please, try not to cry yourselves to sleep at night over it.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Bah... a book...
I don't care that much about that idiot word...
But I care enough to check the wiki
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In its original English language usage, nigger (then spelled niger) was a word for a dark-skinned individual. The earliest known published use of the term dates from 1574, in a work alluding to "the Nigers of Aethiop, bearing witnes".[2] According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first derogatory usage of the term nigger was recorded two centuries later, in 1775.
[...]
During the fur trade of the early 1800s to the late 1840s in the Western United States, the word was spelled "niggur", and is often recorded in literature of the time. George Fredrick Ruxton used it in his "mountain man" lexicon, without pejorative connotation. "Niggur" was evidently similar to the modern use of "dude" or "guy". [...] It was not used as a term exclusively for blacks among mountain men during this period, as Indians, Mexicans, and Frenchmen and Anglos alike could be a "niggur".[8] "The noun slipped back and forth from derogatory to endearing."[9]
[...]
Nineteenth-century literature features usages of "nigger" without racist connotation. Mark Twain, in the autobiographic book Life on the Mississippi (1883), used the term within quotes, indicating reported speech, but used the term "negro" when writing in his own narrative persona.
""
And then it goes on to show how, in the 20th century, it became less and less accepted.
From this, something tells me that there's some history that's not being told right to the younger generations, and that connotation of each individual use of the word should be taken into consideration, instead of your reported blanket reaction to hearing it as "I think they're an absolute piece of shit".
Sure, on some locations it was probably used as you say it was, but clearly it wasn't everywhere. So the meaning of the word is not just the one you've been taught.
Perhaps you guys can endeavor to make society reduce the word to being just another insult... and, like so many others, not particularly effective at arousing violence.
Regardless of it's etymology the fact remains: The term has been a principle of white supremacy for hundreds of years and it still is today.
So, if you were to call me a N**GER, I would indeed regard you as a racist piece of shit and have no qualms in telling you so.
There you have it.
Use the term if you like, but you do NOT get to dictate my responses.
(May 1, 2019 at 5:04 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Still don't have a response from the staff on videos.
Um, yes you do. ShellB explicitly said:
1. You were never told you couldn’t post rap videos.
2. Not all rap songs have N-word in them, so it’s pretty offensive of you to make that generalization.
It was like, a page back, dude.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
May 1, 2019 at 5:43 pm (This post was last modified: May 1, 2019 at 5:44 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(May 1, 2019 at 4:17 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(May 1, 2019 at 3:28 pm)Thena323 Wrote: As I've said before, N**GER is the quintessential verbal expression the white supremacy and anti-black hostility. That designation has been used a desensitization tool, justification, and a rallying cry to subjugate, murder, debase, dehumanize, and discriminate against people for centuries. The racial hatred behind it very much a driving force in the US to this day and it is still utilized for the very same purposes.
If you think that relegates the word to nothing more than a mundane, everyday insult rather than hate-speech (and that those who don't take kindly to being called N**GER are somehow the real problem and the real racists) there's nothing I can say that will convince you otherwise.
Lol...Baffled you shall remain.
If you're sincerely looking to "understand" things, my suggestion would be for you to pick up a book.
I can't help you.
Bah... a book...
I don't care that much about that idiot word...
But I care enough to check the wiki
""
In its original English language usage, nigger (then spelled niger) was a word for a dark-skinned individual. The earliest known published use of the term dates from 1574, in a work alluding to "the Nigers of Aethiop, bearing witnes".[2] According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first derogatory usage of the term nigger was recorded two centuries later, in 1775.
[...]
During the fur trade of the early 1800s to the late 1840s in the Western United States, the word was spelled "niggur", and is often recorded in literature of the time. George Fredrick Ruxton used it in his "mountain man" lexicon, without pejorative connotation. "Niggur" was evidently similar to the modern use of "dude" or "guy". [...] It was not used as a term exclusively for blacks among mountain men during this period, as Indians, Mexicans, and Frenchmen and Anglos alike could be a "niggur".[8] "The noun slipped back and forth from derogatory to endearing."[9]
[...]
Nineteenth-century literature features usages of "nigger" without racist connotation. Mark Twain, in the autobiographic book Life on the Mississippi (1883), used the term within quotes, indicating reported speech, but used the term "negro" when writing in his own narrative persona.
""
And then it goes on to show how, in the 20th century, it became less and less accepted.
From this, something tells me that there's some history that's not being told right to the younger generations, and that connotation of each individual use of the word should be taken into consideration, instead of your reported blanket reaction to hearing it as "I think they're an absolute piece of shit".
Sure, on some locations it was probably used as you say it was, but clearly it wasn't everywhere. So the meaning of the word is not just the one you've been taught.
Perhaps you guys can endeavor to make society reduce the word to being just another insult... and, like so many others, not particularly effective at arousing violence.
Wow, you’ve gone full-blown apologist. This is almost as cringe-worthy as listening to Christians make excuses for biblical slavery.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
