[Serious] Do we have any female Christians left? If not, anyone is welcome to comment.

[madog]

Is God alive?

You having a crisis of belief Drich? 

[Drich]

Why do you keep accusing atheists of agreeing with the statement "God is dead" or touting it themselves? I don't necessarily agree with him on his point, as he was very fearful of what may replace God as a stabilizing force in our society... I personally agree with parts of his argument and disagree with others...

what a self centered douche... I was not quoting you. I did not ask you to be apart oft his conversation I did not ask what you thought of the quote.
It was simply an off handed remark used to describe a condition not of life or death but the elimination of God from the social construct and being replaced with social 'enlightenment.' again Who gives a shite what you think, because you are truly no one of note. I quoted a greater man than you again to describe the fundamental destruction of theology and the subsequent replacement with pop morality as the culture guiding light. like it or not sport this is the inference people are point to when the phrase is used... Not what you think! come on!! Why would you say the collective understanding of Nietzsche is wrong?

Do you really regard yourself so highly as to be able to correct a whole society's regard to a Nietzsche quote?

-However-

When I the representative of the church in this discussion use the phrase, It can not be to reference 19th century philosophers 'stone' as it where, let alone use it in a discussion to partially describe someone's stated reasons for abandoning belief?

Why?

Because My use of a 200 year old quote goes against christian stereotypes?

No dude lmao. That's not why. I don't care about Christian stereotypes. I'm focused on your words and reasoning, not you personally.

that's BS just look at your very next quip! You did not answer the words or reasoning I used you personally attacked my english skills. what a fake person you are. you can't even go a single paragraph without contradicting yourself. I guess when english is your first language intergity does not matter huh.

Riddle me this sport. If I was not saying God was 'killed' by a secular enlightenment why would I have referenced a move who's title and main antagonist takes Nietzsche  primary philosophy and address it point by point? why would I have asked when confronted by the OP "I don't think God is dead" with questions concerning/verifying her atheism?

Is English your first language?

not my first. korean was, but it is now my primary. Ever teach yourself a second langue by yourself though nothing more than a stack of comic books?
Till you do... keep the dick measuring to yourself.

Maybe it is you who is short sighted and can not see the parallels I made, perhaps that might change if and when you become more familiar with nietzsche's work. even if only via a cheeze kevin sorbo movie

Man if your knowledge of an intense work of philosophy starts and ends with the movie "God's Not Dead" then I'll just see my way out of this thread and not look back.

Here's the thing smart guy... You guys can even have a rational conversation without attacking me personally/english skill level EVEN on the knowledge the movie provides!!!

Why do I need go any further when the self proclaimed smartest guy in the room (the douche who is correcting the philosopher I am quoting) can't argue the point I made topically based on a movie reference? Why discuss the man's philosophy when a third hand quote can not be attributed to the man's personal idealism without some douche trying to correct one of the primary things the philosopher is known for?!?!?

Don't you get it? You are not arguing me dummy! You are not arguing Nietzsche You are arguing accidemina who ascribe the term "God is Dead to Nietzsche and then provides it's meaning.

The actual existence of God is IRRELEVANT TO Nietzsche's argument!! The statement is about religion and belief in God's role in our civilization and how many believe in it and how it fits into their lives. It's about collective psychology... so being an atheist doesn't automatically mean I agree with the statement.

Glob... I said this very thing "smart guy." why does it ring true when you say it but is wrong when I do? because you have no intrest in what I am saying nor how I say it despite you claim. You are looking to argue via key words and stero types. You look for pharses and you assume you know what my position should be then you just blindly blather on, with little to no attention to what was said. Other wise you would have seen your error before you posted it! (You making my arguement for me!)

Me asking losty if she believes in God points to the idea at some point she replaced "religion as her guiding light/force with the social enlightment that "killed God!"

So the question is pertinent because if she is an atheist she fits the requirements of the "enlightened society" that Niesche says is what killed God.

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Is God alive?

Gods are neither alive nor dead. That’s my view. You can see it however you wish. You don’t get to decide what I think. My point is not to argue semantics with you Drich. My point is that you don’t get to say “you think....”. You don’t get to do that for anyone but yourself. I don’t tell you what you believe.

do you know who  Nietzsche was?

a man who lived 200 years ago who coined the Phrase "god is Dead."

What does he mean? He like you does not believe God is dead not was ever alive. but the idea society had God was alive and the guiding light of man that whle philosophy was dead. So for all wh believe there is no God alive or dead had killed off the need to have God at the forefront of their lives.

That is all i meant, when I ask you about God being dead. it meant God or your idea of god was inactive, so you honestly and logically concluded there was no God, not that he died. Meaning you killed the idea of putting God first. Now according to your OP you have adopted the 'enlightenment'  Nietzsche says replaces or kills God.

I simply saw what you wrote was reminded by a conversation as to why you stopped believing and tied the philosopher's idealism to your situation as a simple metaphor that was similar done in the movie I referenced. (something bad happened to the professor and he lost faith then grew embittered and like you demanded question be answered based on his idea of who God was... which is as we learned together (by you pointout I am not like a chirstian you ever known/IE IF I AM Indeed a Christian as the bible describes... then it is not likely you have never known the God of the bible, but the idea of God as presented by your specific denomination. a God of strict rules and requirments.)

I wanted to demonstrate to you tht just because your god was dead IE not active and replaced with pop enlightment, that it was not the only version out there, because in fact my God is very alive and well and i deal with him daily. That your past experience is not the only experience one can have with God!

[Losty]

That’s great Drich.

You really should delete that bullshit about discreet PMs from your signature though lol.

When I PMd you about my personal reason for not believing in god, I did so under the (faulty) assumption that the conversation was between us. But okay

[Drich]

That’s great Drich.

You really should delete that bullshit about discreet PMs from your signature though lol.

When I PMd you about my personal reason for not believing in god, I did so under the (faulty) assumption that the conversation was between us. But okay

8 years ago!!! which you had promptly forgotten about which I have you know I remembered and still use to taylor my responses to you today! beside i did not disclose any details only that you spoke to me. I also disclosed so has ever other log term member of this website. Even the minimalist where ever he is!
Plus I gave you an out stating i could have very well confused you with someone else. (which I have done in the past several times) (losty lucky loopy you are all the same to me. till only of you starts yelling about something..)
I simply wanted to communicate I took what you said seriously and try and shape what I have to say to fit your specific situation. This in any one's book should not be any sort of violation of trust.

Beside from the last few scandels I remember "staff" has access to all of our deets anyway! So who am I truly telling anyway? all you "colored named people" can as you please see everything we do say and leave on this website as a matter of record!

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That’s great Drich.

You really should delete that bullshit about discreet PMs from your signature though lol.

When I PMd you about my personal reason for not believing in god, I did so under the (faulty) assumption that the conversation was between us. But okay

better now? I fixed my signature just for you.

Sorry I forgot I even had a signature. I was wondering why people would just dump a load of their crap on me from time to time.. look like i was asking for it every time I posted something.

[WolfsChild]

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