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Ecology topic
#61
RE: Ecology topic
(October 9, 2019 at 8:51 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Believing in climate change doesn't mean you are preparing for climate change
Date: October 8, 2019
Source: University of Notre Dame
Summary: Researchers found that although coastal homeowners may perceive a worsening of climate change-related hazards, these attitudes are largely unrelated to a homeowner's expectations of actual home damage.

That depends on the home owner.   In Los Angeles, particularly in affluent heavily republican leaning coastal communities in orange county where public climate change denial seems to be prescribed in holy writ, houses near the cost but at an elevation above sea level an impressive multiple of the worse estimate of sea level rises in price in direct proportion to the fall in prices of houses near sea level.    Much of the demand for houses above the reach of rising sea level came from the very same wealthy people who are selling houses projected to be within reach of rising sea levels to move to hiring ground while publicly denying the reality of climate change and sea level rise.

It does seem very much like wealthy people who have the means to mitigate the effect of climate change on their them individually are not only taking steps, but taking exaggerated steps,  to protect themselves,  but that the same time publicly disputing the reality of climate change so as to not come under pressure to chip in to help those who do not have the means to mitigate the personal effects of climate change.
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#62
RE: Ecology topic
Climate change could cost the U.S. up to 10.5 percent of its GDP by 2100, study finds

For the United States, the study finds that if emissions of greenhouse gases are not significantly cut in keeping with the goals of the Paris accord, the country could see a 10.5 percent cut in real income by 2100. The hardest hit countries will be poorer, tropical nations, but in contrast to previous studies, the new paper finds that no country will be spared and none will see a net benefit economically from global warming.

Other countries will experience major losses, too, if emissions of planet-warming greenhouse gases are not reduced soon. Canada, for example, could lose more than 13 percent of its GDP by 2100, while Japan, India and New Zealand could be subjected to a 10 percent hit as well.

“The UK recently had its hottest day on record. Train tracks buckled, roads melted, and thousands were stranded because it was out of the norm. Such events take an economic toll, and will only become more frequent and severe without policies to address the threats of climate change,” Mohaddes said in a statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2...udy-finds/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#63
RE: Ecology topic
(October 12, 2019 at 1:35 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Climate change could cost the U.S. up to 10.5 percent of its GDP by 2100, study finds

For the United States, the study finds that if emissions of greenhouse gases are not significantly cut in keeping with the goals of the Paris accord, the country could see a 10.5 percent cut in real income by 2100. The hardest hit countries will be poorer, tropical nations, but in contrast to previous studies, the new paper finds that no country will be spared and none will see a net benefit economically from global warming.

Other countries will experience major losses, too, if emissions of planet-warming greenhouse gases are not reduced soon. Canada, for example, could lose more than 13 percent of its GDP by 2100, while Japan, India and New Zealand could be subjected to a 10 percent hit as well.

“The UK recently had its hottest day on record. Train tracks buckled, roads melted, and thousands were stranded because it was out of the norm. Such events take an economic toll, and will only become more frequent and severe without policies to address the threats of climate change,” Mohaddes said in a statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2...udy-finds/

The figure is, of course, incomplete and misleading.

A reasonable rate of long term growth for the US economy might be 2-2.5% per year.

Over the 80 years to 2100, this growth rate will see the US economy enlarge by a factor of roughly 6.   If we lose 10% of our economy to global warming by 2100, it would be instead of growing by 6 times, our economy will grow by 5.4 times.

Convert that into annual growth rate shows this represent an reduction of average annual growth rate of a mere 0.1-0.15%.

Yes, the cumulative loss of wealth over 80m years is substantial.  But a loss of annual growth rate of 0.1-0.15% out of 2-2.5% each year would be barely noticeable, and hardly by itself likely to result in severe dislocation. 

The greatest disruptive impact of climate change will not be felt in relative developed and economies with substantial financial and economic resources and generally an large excess of wealth over subsistence level, such as the US or Canada, or China. Or even India.    It would be on marginal economies that have limited ability to either feed itself or produce enough of value to trade for food.
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#64
RE: Ecology topic
Hey, who needs team of researchers from the University of Cambridge, the International Monetary Fund, the University of Southern California and the National Tsing Hua University in Taiwan when there's Anomalocaris.


Btw someone made a report on what I was talking about earlier: war of plastics vs life


teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#65
RE: Ecology topic
Jerkoff
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#66
RE: Ecology topic
How to get rid of plastic garbage



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#67
RE: Ecology topic
While thinking that Greta crossed the ocean on a sailing vessel, it should be nice to keep in mind that the carbon foot print of maritime transportation can just be reduced and stopping it is not an option. That is if no new technology comes along the way.
But maybe you guys know of something that can bring that number to 0?
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#68
RE: Ecology topic
You can swim and pull an inflatable beach toy behind you to carry world commerce.
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#69
RE: Ecology topic
(October 19, 2019 at 7:50 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: While thinking that Greta crossed the ocean on a sailing vessel, it should be nice to keep in mind that the carbon foot print of maritime transportation can just be reduced and stopping it is not an option. That is if no new technology comes along the way.
But maybe you guys know of something that can bring that number to 0?

Perhaps it could be carbon neutral if ships used artificially made ethanol in a process I mentioned on previous page (about the Sahara). For instance these private space companies apparently launch their methane rockets by creating their own methane by using electricity from solar panels and then sucking carbon out of air and mix it with hydrogen.

And when it comes to plastic waste, this is something that big oil companies (Exxon, Shell) who are responsible for it should deal with, like building incinerators or electrical arc gasifiers, at least by using money they save from not paying taxes. That's why they need to be pushed by politicians or taxed.

Recently, Jane Fonda gave a nice speech about Green New Deal. And I also like the chant from the 4th speaker: "Corporate scum, here we come!"



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#70
RE: Ecology topic
Car ownership in Paris has dropped in half in the last four years. Barely a third of households now own cars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/world...hange.html

In London you can borrow electric car on the street, drive it where you need and leave it.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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