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Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 1:51 pm
Christians every day complain that society is getting too secular and more distant from being Christian, but let's say Christians get it their way that society gets more "Christian" or let's say today some people decide to make some peace of land to be governed by Christians for Christians to make it as most Christian as they can and therefore form their laws on Christian beliefs to, I guess, please God.
What would it look like? What would be allowed and what would be forbidden? Can anyone make a clear picture?
And perhaps some of you would be tempted to say "it would be like in medieval times" but world did change a lot since then, human knowledge did grow as did technology, but if you think it would all go in an instant to middle ages then be it.
Here are some of my guesses based on what seem to be Christian desires and obsessions:
Abortion would be forbidden.
Contraception would be forbidden.
Only religious songs would be allowed.
LGBTQ people would be executed.
Divorce would be forbidden.
Dancing would be strictly supervised.
Creationism would be taught in schools.
There wouldn't be democracy but rather religious leaders would govern chosen by holy ghost.
There would be cameras everywhere and people in charge who would monitor if someone is masturbating.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 1:54 pm
(May 14, 2019 at 1:51 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Christians every day complain that society is getting too secular and more distant from being Christian, but let's say Christians get it their way that society gets more "Christian" or let's say today some people decide to make some peace of land to be governed by Christians for Christians to make it as most Christian as they can and therefore form their laws on Christian beliefs to, I guess, please God.
What would it look like? What would be allowed and what would be forbidden? Can anyone make a clear picture?
And perhaps some of you would be tempted to say "it would be like in medieval times" but world did change a lot since then, human knowledge did grow as did technology, but if you think it would all go in an instant to middle ages then be it.
Here are some of my guesses based on what seem to be Christian desires and obsessions:
Abortion would be forbidden.
Contraception would be forbidden.
Only religious songs would be allowed.
LGBTQ people would be executed.
Divorce would be forbidden.
Dancing would be strictly supervised.
Creationism would be taught in schools.
There wouldn't be democracy but rather religious leaders would govern chosen by holy ghost.
There would be cameras everywhere and people in charge who would monitor if someone is masturbating.
NOOOOOO oh my goodness then hell really would exist and it would be right here on earth!! Just reading that scarred me! What a horrible evil world it would be.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2019 at 4:05 pm by The Valkyrie.)
It really depends on which version of Christianity said utopia is based on. Many Christian sects can't even agree on the basics of their faith.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 2:08 pm
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2019 at 4:05 pm by The Valkyrie.)
(May 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: It really depends on which version of Christianity said utopia is based on. Many Christian sects can't even agree on the basics of their faith.
That might be an interesting experiment: Take representative samples of the various Christian franchises and force them all to live together in their own little walled-off bit of the world. Give them a year to come up with a God-based government.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 2:27 pm
Christian utopia would literally just be America now, since they wouldn't be able to agree on anything but they would still be the majority.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 2:33 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2019 at 2:34 pm by tackattack.
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It would probably be pretty Mennonite or Amish like. I could see the government working like a Quaker universalist meeting. Or maybe Quaker mixed with communism and egalitarianism, where everyone has a respectful say and it is relinquished to some trusteds to do for all, maybe by vote. idk, never really thought about it.
-added for clarity @ Aegon no, definately not,IMO. Best we got, maybe. Utopia, hells to the no.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 2:35 pm
(May 14, 2019 at 2:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (May 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: It really depends on which version of Christuanity said utopia is based on. Many Christian sects can't even agree on the basics of their faith.
That might be an interesting experiment: Take representative samples of the various Christian franchises and force them all to live together in their own little walled-off bit of the world. Give them a year to come up with a God-based government.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 2:37 pm
(May 14, 2019 at 2:33 pm)tackattack Wrote: It would probably be pretty Mennonite or Amish like. I could see the government working like a Quaker universalist meeting. Or maybe Quaker mixed with communism and egalitarianism, where everyone has a respectful say and it is relinquished to some trusteds to do for all, maybe by vote. idk, never really thought about it.
-added for clarity @Aegon no, definately not,IMO. Best we got, maybe. Utopia, hells to the no.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 2:45 pm
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I think it would be a free nation with a republican form of government and a constitution of guaranteed rights.
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RE: Christian utopia?
May 14, 2019 at 2:56 pm
We got a clear picture when Europe was full of catholics and protestants. It wasn't exactly full of enlightenment and peace.
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