Trump did a good thing by humiliating Saudi Arabia

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I never said that they were 'Saudis'.  But the correct, accepted term for these people is 'Saudi Arabian', whether you like it or not. Look it up.

Boru

This name -Saudi- is a new as the reign of the Sauds in 1744:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Saudi_Arabia

The history of Saudi Arabia in its current form as a state began with its foundation in 1744

The word "Saud" refers to this family :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saud

The House of Saud (Arabic: آل سعود‎, romanized: ʾĀl Suʿūd IPA: [ʔaːl sʊʕuːd]) is the ruling royal family of Saudi Arabia. It is composed of the descendants of Muhammad bin Saud, founder of the Emirate of Diriyah, known as the First Saudi state (1744–1818)

No. Its citizens are not properties of the house of Saud, this place -Arabia- is way older than the house of Saud or 1744.

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I didn't really need the history lesson, but I appreciate your effort.  But at the risk of repeating myself:

-Not everyone on the Arabian Peninsula lives in Saudi Arabia.

-Irrespective of your feelings about the Saud family (and I do share them), the proper demonym is 'Saudi Arabian'.  This is to differentiate them from Omanis, Bahrainis, Yemenis, and so on.

-Calling them 'Saudi Arabians' doesn't make them the property of the Saud family anymore than calling US citizens 'Americans' makes them the property of the Vespucci family of Italy.

-If you don't smoke weed, you should.  If you do, you should up your intake and relax a bit.

Boru

[Angrboda]

Another way to look at it is that war creates a tremendous demand for oil.

Boru

Theys dont want to have all the tankers sunk by a (global) war.

They want $.
$ = business
war = bad for business

How much more simple can i put it?

War can be either bad or good for business depending on the specifics. Your objection doesn't necessarily hold.

[WinterHold]

-Calling them 'Saudi Arabians' doesn't make them the property of the Saud family anymore than calling US citizens 'Americans' makes them the property of the Vespucci family of Italy.

Amerigo was credited for discovering "the new world". The house of Saud discovered nothing, they butchered their way through invading the native tribes of Arabia and declared themselves "kings" in the 18th century. Nobody even chose them. They treated any opposition just like Kashoggi was treated.

There is no comparison between them and between Amerigo. They don't even know geography. That's why betting on them and allying oneself to them is a time-bomb and a disaster.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

-Calling them 'Saudi Arabians' doesn't make them the property of the Saud family anymore than calling US citizens 'Americans' makes them the property of the Vespucci family of Italy.

Amerigo was credited for discovering "the new world". The house of Saud discovered nothing, they butchered their way through invading the native tribes of Arabia and declared themselves "kings" in the 18th century. Nobody even chose them. They treated any opposition just like Kashoggi was treated.

There is no comparison between them and between Amerigo. They don't even know geography. That's why betting on them and allying oneself to them is a time-bomb and a disaster.

Utterly immaterial.  These people are properly called 'Saudi Arabians' because they live in a country called 'Saudi Arabia'.  It isn't an insult and it isn't meant to imply ownership of the people and it isn't meant to glorify the Saud family.  It makes no difference how vile and rapacious the Sauds are, were, or might be in the future.

 Objecting to the term 'Saudi Arabian' because of the Saud family makes about as much sense as objecting to 'New Zealander' because the Vikings weren't always very nice.

Boru

[WinterHold]

Amerigo was credited for discovering "the new world". The house of Saud discovered nothing, they butchered their way through invading the native tribes of Arabia and declared themselves "kings" in the 18th century. Nobody even chose them. They treated any opposition just like Kashoggi was treated.

There is no comparison between them and between Amerigo. They don't even know geography. That's why betting on them and allying oneself to them is a time-bomb and a disaster.

Utterly immaterial.  These people are properly called 'Saudi Arabians' because they live in a country called 'Saudi Arabia'.  It isn't an insult and it isn't meant to imply ownership of the people and it isn't meant to glorify the Saud family.  It makes no difference how vile and rapacious the Sauds are, were, or might be in the future.

 Objecting to the term 'Saudi Arabian' because of the Saud family makes about as much sense as objecting to 'New Zealander' because the Vikings weren't always very nice.

Boru

Calling a country "Valhala" or "Sovingard" is different from calling it "the Arabia of Saud".
Valhala and Sovingarde are not real people.

Imagine your nationality becoming '"AtlasSian". Everywhere you go in the forum you'll be the peasant and I'm the king; you'll be the slave and I'm the owner; I'm the "AtlasS" and you are the "AtlasSian" by birth.