A postscript to "what happened to me"

[Deesse23]

At the weekend he posted an anti-Semitic Holocaust denial video on AF and said he was 'mulling' over it

Which thread is that?

I've never seen rob say anything close to racist, though I'm open look over the thread in question.

That, and considering how frequently Gae will call anyone who disagrees with him a racist or an "alt-righter" makes me a bit hesitant to jump on the rob-hating bandwagon. Forgive me for being skeptical.

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Source?

I dont know if i am allowed to post links to other forums, so ill give you (for now) the informations who made the core of the video:

Facts: Ten newspapers from WWI to 1939 who repeatedly show the number "six million jews" (in danger, oppressed, about to starve, etc.) were shown. The actual papers were shown, so no fake news.
YT vid title: "Old Newspaper Read's Six million Jews Died in 1915 1938 Before Hitler was in power." This was the first lie, since not a single one of the newspapers shown, confirmed this!
First sentence on the audio track of the YT vid, basically the guy who uploaded it: "these Jews are pushing this message...(about six million Jews)", which i find utterly disgusting.

Robs original comment on this:

I’m not going to give any conclusions either. I’m still mulling this over.

After it has been pointed out that he must have gone batshit crazy now, he said:

I also noticed that the video begins with the phrase that "these Jews are pushing this message..." which I didn’t notice when I first listened. No doubt this has caused many people to instantly stop watching and call me names instead. Clearly the author does have an opinion on what is going on here that I hadn't realised.

Regardless, this doesn’t change the facts. The articles do seem to be real, and the comparisons between them are baffling. I urge people to watch the whole video before coming to any conclusions.

The thread got ultimately locked, because while discussing holocaust denial is legit on AD, spreading propaganda is not, and Rob said he would not read any replies (well, he did) and only engage with people via PM. This basically equaled spreading propaganda while refusing to engage (only via PM) in open discussion about the garbage he spread.

If someone like Rob thinks that 10 newspapers merely mentioning six million Jews* pre WWII is a sign of a (jewish) conspiracy, then he must be down some rabbit hole, down to his ankles, imho. I fhe jumps the conspiracy bandwagon, and only at second glance pays attention to the f.ing introduction ("these Jews are pushing this message..."), before he realizes that its even remotely suspicious (which he actually didnt, since he said "regardless...", see above) then he really needs to realize that he went batshit crazy to the point that he is about to swallow garbage like this antisemitic gem, which he didnt, quite to the contrary.

tl;dr
While he may not have become a genuine antisemite, he is at a point where he is willing to accept holocaust denial based on noting more than clearly antisemitic garbage, and he is actively spreading this with no intention to get (t)his view openly challenged in a forum, because it hurts his feelings.
I have told him numerous times and still stand to my claim: He needs help, professional help, or help form people irl, at least nothing the population of a forum can provide to him.

*again: not six million jews actually dying/having died, but six million jews in Europe being half of the jewish world population, and that a lot of them are in danger or already persecuted.

P.S.: He even tried to call people out for (possibly) not watching the entire video, urging them to do so, when he had to admit after it was pointed out to him what was said in the intro that he obviously didnt pay attention himself.
Trust me guys, that was about 30min-1h of my life ill never get back!

[Amarok]

Yeah and you blindly deny it no matter what 

Actually plenty so called Liberals are Alt right ass kissers .Your free to laugh doesn't change the fact it's so.

Now watch him pull a Sargon and preform gold metal mental gymnastics to explain it away

Quit talking out of your ass and tell me about the thread in question. I don't see any of the threads on rob's page being titled about anything to do with holocaust deniers.

You people throw the alt-right accusation as much as you use sarcasm and snide insults.

I feel like, 99 times out of 100, you have no interest in having a conversation, but rather talking at people. You're looking for a fight, it seems. Problem is I'm not here to satisfy your ego so I don't care to fight with you. Either tell me about the thread or fuck off.

1. Look for it yourself it's not freaking hard 

2. And you deny it as much as throw long winded blather 

3. Funny this sounds like you and again look for it yourself .

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Which thread is that?

I've never seen rob say anything close to racist, though I'm open look over the thread in question.

That, and considering how frequently Gae will call anyone who disagrees with him a racist or an "alt-righter" makes me a bit hesitant to jump on the rob-hating bandwagon. Forgive me for being skeptical.

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Source?

I dont know if i am allowed to post links to other forums, so ill give you (for now) the informations who made the core of the video:

Facts: Ten newspapers from WWI to 1939 who repeatedly show the number "six million jews" (in danger, oppressed, about to starve, etc.) were shown. The actual papers were shown, so no fake news.
YT vid title: "Old Newspaper Read's Six million Jews Died in 1915 1938 Before Hitler was in power." This was the first lie, since not a single one of the newspapers shown, confirmed this!
First sentence on the audio track of the YT vid, basically the guy who uploaded it: "these Jews are pushing this message...(about six million Jews)", which i find utterly disgusting.

Robs original comment on this:

I’m not going to give any conclusions either. I’m still mulling this over.

After it has been pointed out that he must have gone batshit crazy now, he said:

I also noticed that the video begins with the phrase that "these Jews are pushing this message..." which I didn’t notice when I first listened. No doubt this has caused many people to instantly stop watching and call me names instead. Clearly the author does have an opinion on what is going on here that I hadn't realised.

Regardless, this doesn’t change the facts. The articles do seem to be real, and the comparisons between them are baffling. I urge people to watch the whole video before coming to any conclusions.

The thread got ultimately locked, because while discussing holocaust denial is legit on AD, spreading propaganda is not, and Rob said he would not read any replies (well, he did) and only engage with people via PM. This basically equaled spreading propaganda while refusing to engage (only via PM) in open discussion about the garbage he spread.

If someone like Rob thinks that 10 newspapers merely mentioning six million Jews* pre WWII is a sign of a (jewish) conspiracy, then he must be down some rabbit hole, down to his ankles, imho. I fhe jumps the conspiracy bandwagon, and only at second glance pays attention to the f.ing introduction ("these Jews are pushing this message..."), before he realizes that its even remotely suspicious (which he actually didnt, since he said "regardless...", see above) then he really needs to realize that he went batshit crazy to the point that he is about to swallow garbage like this antisemitic gem, which he didnt, quite to the contrary.

tl;dr
While he may not have become a genuine antisemite, he is at a point where he is willing to accept holocaust denial based on noting more than clearly antisemitic garbage, and he is actively spreading this with no intention to get (t)his view openly challenged in a forum, because it hurts his feelings.
I have told him numerous times and still stand to my claim: He needs help, professional help, or help form people irl, at least nothing the population of a forum can provide to him.

*again: not six million jews actually dying/having died, but six million jews in Europe being half of the jewish world population, and that a lot of them are in danger or already persecuted.

P.S.: He even tried to call people out for (possibly) not watching the entire video, urging them to do so, when he had to admit after it was pointed out to him what was said in the intro that he obviously didnt pay attention himself.
Trust me guys, that was about 30min-1h of my life ill never get back!

Good job but you need not have gone too all the effort for his sake

[Deesse23]

Good job but you need not have gone too all the effort for his sake

There are lines that shouldnt be crossed for everyone of us i think. Different lines for you and me.
Holocaust denial is one of the lines you shouldnt cross while i am in the room. Especially when the source is clearly antisemitic and spewing out 100% lies. Rob did just that, with a qualifier that he is "mulling" over it, ok, but still.....i will not tolerate this neither if you are the evil originator nor the confused fool spreading this garbage .

[Amarok]

Good job but you need not have gone too all the effort for his sake

There are lines that shouldnt be crossed for everyone of us i think. Different lines for you and me.
Holocaust denial is one of the lines you shouldnt cross while i am in the room. Especially when the source is clearly antisemitic and spewing out 100% lies. Rob did just that, with a qualifier that he is "mulling" over it, ok, but still.....i will not tolerate this neither if you are the evil originator nor the confused fool spreading this garbage .

I think our lines are about the same .I was just pointing out that you should not have had too search for something Egg (if he really cared ) should have been able to find and also to point out that your efforts are unlikely too change much as I can already hear his excuses .(thou exposing Anti-Semitism is itself is a positive change )

[comet]

well good luck. It seemed to me that you were interested in truth, no matter how uncomfortable, so long as it aligned with anti-religious/god.

the contradiction between how the the universe works and anti-god/my god only is only present when one doesn't understand the difference.

[EgoDeath]

tl;dr
While he may not have become a genuine antisemite, he is at a point where he is willing to accept holocaust denial based on noting more than clearly antisemitic garbage, and he is actively spreading this with no intention to get (t)his view openly challenged in a forum, because it hurts his feelings.
I have told him numerous times and still stand to my claim: He needs help, professional help, or help form people irl, at least nothing the population of a forum can provide to him.

*again: not six million jews actually dying/having died, but six million jews in Europe being half of the jewish world population, and that a lot of them are in danger or already persecuted.

P.S.: He even tried to call people out for (possibly) not watching the entire video, urging them to do so, when he had to admit after it was pointed out to him what was said in the intro that he obviously didnt pay attention himself.
Trust me guys, that was about 30min-1h of my life ill never get back!

If this is in fact true, then that is unfortunate. However, without seeing the thread in question I'm not just going to jump on the bandwagon and start slinging the alt-right mud at rob like everyone else is. Nothing in my personal conversations with him have ever given me any impression that he's anything but a rational-minded skeptic.

I find it truly disheartening that if one doesn't jump on the bandwagon with you guys, they're immediately labeled alt-right or at least "giving the alt-right a pass." That is simply not how debate and conversation works.

[WinterHold]

Good job but you need not have gone too all the effort for his sake

There are lines that shouldnt be crossed for everyone of us i think. Different lines for you and me.
Holocaust denial is one of the lines you shouldnt cross while i am in the room. Especially when the source is clearly antisemitic and spewing out 100% lies. Rob did just that, with a qualifier that he is "mulling" over it, ok, but still.....i will not tolerate this neither if you are the evil originator nor the confused fool spreading this garbage .

I might think twice about Rob's motives before lynching him.

Jews got used by the oligarchs of Britain after WW1; the propaganda's point was to clean the English streets from the Jewish ghettos; and throw the Jews into the battlefield against the Arabs to reclaim "a biblical heritage".

Zionism used the Jewish religion and used the poor Jews too; while the poor got thrown in the Middle East, the wealthy stayed in Britain and the U.S ; the zionist lobby even reached the white house with Trump as an example.

Each country in Europe got rid of the Jewish ghettos; either by a burning them like Hitler did; or by fooling them into the promises of Zionism.

So maybe Rob saw the sever violations of human rights from Israel's side and acted according to what he felt.

[Shell B]

I don’t care for labeling people much, but Holocaust Denialism is jacked.

[EgoDeath]

Holocaust deniers are mostly Neo-Nazis and other white-supremacist types. But I know of one person in my real life who was sort of "entertaining" the whole Holocaust denial thing, mainly because he was easily duped by conspiracy theories. It's pretty moronic, through and through, and I don't have patience for people who even entertain such garbage. It's like dealing with a Flat-Earther... talking to a wall.

[Shell B]

You can link to other forums here, but I would advise against causing drama somewhere else over it, in case anyone was thinking of joining the thread over there.