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Husband Deconverted!!
#11
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
(July 25, 2019 at 3:13 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(July 25, 2019 at 12:43 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: But now he has absolutely no morals!

and no hope


More hope than he likely had with religion.
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#12
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
(July 25, 2019 at 3:13 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(July 25, 2019 at 12:43 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: But now he has absolutely no morals!

and no hope

Hope, without delusion.
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#13
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
Still it always cracks me open when someone claims that you can't have any morals if you don't believe that some carpenter walked on water 2000 years ago.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#14
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
Hey FM, that's not fair! You make it sound like it's all bullshit! lol.
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#15
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
(July 24, 2019 at 10:07 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: Hey y'all I know I'm not really on here these days anymore but it's not a lack of love just busy with life. I'm so happy right now and I had to tell someone that isn't my bible belt Facebook.

My husband admitted that he denounced Catholicism and Christianity! I've been slowly pushing him to this for years. Just asking him logical questions and being civil but pointing out contradictions. This is an exciting day.

Woo freakin Hoo!

Do the catholics know he's left and think's they're a bunch of wankers?
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#16
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
(July 25, 2019 at 3:31 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Still it always cracks me open when someone claims that you can't have any morals if you don't believe that some carpenter walked on water 2000 years ago.

Well, he can't anymore, what with the holes in his feet.

Mooney, be sure to tell your husband "Welcome to the dark side" for me! I hope he doesn't kick himself  too much while recovering. I know I sure did.
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#17
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
(July 25, 2019 at 3:13 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(July 25, 2019 at 12:43 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: But now he has absolutely no morals!

and no hope

.......... of being sodomized by a priest. THE HORROR!
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#18
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
(July 24, 2019 at 10:07 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: Hey y'all I know I'm not really on here these days anymore but it's not a lack of love just busy with life. I'm so happy right now and I had to tell someone that isn't my bible belt Facebook.

My husband admitted that he denounced Catholicism and Christianity! I've been slowly pushing him to this for years. Just asking him logical questions and being civil but pointing out contradictions. This is an exciting day.

Love the story and happy for you and your husband, but nobody "converts" or "deconverts", we simply change our position.

Just like a light switch can only go from off to on, or on to off, but does not convert pr deconvert  to a toaster or or chainsaw, it is still a light switch.

I look at all religions and god claims like a restaurant you eat at. You are not the building itself, it is just a place you frequent and are capable of leaving.

I left my position, but I was never the position itself, it was merely a position I held. Just like cloths. You can wear cloths, and change them, but your body itself isn't the clothing.

Call it pedantic on my part. I am really happy for both of you though.
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#19
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
(July 25, 2019 at 3:13 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(July 25, 2019 at 12:43 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: But now he has absolutely no morals!

and no hope

What good is hope based on something that is indistinguishable from a delusion?

I could have hope that I am going to find a huge bag of money, but I can almost assuredly be certain, that will not happen.

The difference is, at least I know that bags of money actually exist. So, there is some incredibly tiny basis for hope.

Your god/afterlife... not so much.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#20
RE: Husband Deconverted!!
(July 25, 2019 at 11:36 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 24, 2019 at 10:07 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: Hey y'all I know I'm not really on here these days anymore but it's not a lack of love just busy with life. I'm so happy right now and I had to tell someone that isn't my bible belt Facebook.

My husband admitted that he denounced Catholicism and Christianity! I've been slowly pushing him to this for years. Just asking him logical questions and being civil but pointing out contradictions. This is an exciting day.

Love the story and happy for you and your husband, but nobody "converts" or "deconverts", we simply change our position.

Just like a light switch can only go from off to on, or on to off, but does not convert pr deconvert  to a toaster or or chainsaw, it is still a light switch.

I look at all religions and god claims like a restaurant you eat at. You are not the building itself, it is just a place you frequent and are capable of leaving.

I left my position, but I was never the position itself, it was merely a position I held. Just like cloths. You can wear cloths, and change them, but your body itself isn't the clothing.

Call it pedantic on my part. I am really happy for both of you though.

It's pedantic on your part.  What is your problem with the word 'convert'? 

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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