How about this..

[Anomalocaris]

Which means even his mouth doesn't qualify as perpetual motion machine.

Yabut what if the shit was in a closed loop system?

Mouth->Anus->Outside->Mouth …

The second law of bullshit dynamics still applies.    The shit in the reservoir of evasion, fabrication, disinformation and falsehood may stay in the reservoir, but he could not stop himself from moving the evasion, fabrication, disinformation and falsehood they contain to less dishonest reservoirs, as he is doing now.

[LastPoet]

Name names @EgoDeath . I have known alot about echoes in my time and none ever hurted me. Or its just your ego?

Not hurt, I'm just recognizing things for what they are. Or at least what they seem to be to me. And this has been verified by other members I've talked to.
And, name names? For who? And for what? I'm not here to call people out specifically, I'm just explaining to Drich what I think the state of things on this forum seems to be, and why he shouldn't put too much stock in trying to grovel for peoples approval.

You are. You see, you went all out of your way just to post that drivel. Unless you are saying there can be perpetual motion machines, if so I will point and laugh.

So, who was mean to you?

[EgoDeath]

You are. You see, you went all out of your way just to post that drivel. Unless you are saying there can be perpetual motion machines,  if so I will point and laugh.

So, who was mean to you?

Okay. We can agree to disagree.

[Nay_Sayer]

Well, I just inform and share in a helpful matter. You, however, sputter around like a broken sprinkler hooked into a septic tank.

There might be something to my approach.

Eggo 23¼:  FSM spoketh: "Thou shall not be a dick"

Sorry to make you keep looking like a false prophet but there is no book of eggo
https://www.klps.pl/pliki/gospel_fsm_eng.pdf

however on page 80 you have the pastafarian guide to propaganda which in short tells us there is a rule against dogma.. Do you know this word dogma? it in part inspires those self righteous with the need to share the rules of your faith with others in a spam/unsolicited preaching way.

for instance this is a direct qute from the fsm bible

Know THAT YOU KNOW some of the science and history behind Pastafarianism, you may feel that you're ready to go out and spread His Word. With this in mind, it is important to remember that one of the central ideas of FSMism is the idea of inclusion. Anyone can be a member, no matter their age, race, background, or even their religious affiliation. As we've stated earlier, we do not base our beliefs on dogma—if we did, we'd have to think that we're absolutely right about everything. Only assholes think that way. And Pastafarians are not assholes.  

Making up books of the FSM bible just to tell someone they are wrong is being an asshole which is in direct violation of pastafarianism..

So again how are you not a false prophet?

At this point I being a christian are more of a pastafarian than you are.

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You are wise beyond your years, Grasshopper.

Boru

seems both of you are gassy

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Nuclear reactors aren’t perpetual motion machines either.

I have a ras unit in my greenhouse.  It’s a “closed loop” system which is also not a perpetual motion machine.  

The classification in both instances is a term of art, and doesn’t represent the reality of thermodynamics.

You’re the only person who made a mistake.  Every one of your posts just serves to prolong your own embarrasment.

- and just think of how many atheists have died and gone to hell while you embarrass yourself.

Could’ve been sharing the word of god, but that takes a backseat to the word of drich.

never said it was smartest guy on the website..

close loop does not make a PMM. it just made no exhaust or waste which fills one parameter of a PMM

BZZZ

You've failed again. The chapter of Eggo is from the King Arthur edition and not the one you linked.


RAmen

[LastPoet]

Okay. We can agree to disagree.

Not when the second law of thermodynamics is being raped, DAP'd by drich in front of everyone.

I looked why are you so pissed off. Ah Gae and Shell. They tend to easily piss off people, not me, I am an angel

So why coming all the way into the fun we were having with drich, the main actor in this comedy just because your ego got hurt. Heh take it by me, it will happen more along the line.

[EgoDeath]

Okay. We can agree to disagree.

Not when the second law of thermodynamics is being raped, DAP'd by drich in front of everyone.

I looked why are you so pissed off. Ah Gae and Shell. They tend to easily piss off people, not me, I am an angel

So why coming all the way into the fun we were having with drich, the main actor in this comedy just because your ego got hurt. Heh take it by me, it will happen more along the line.

I don't know how else I can explain it to you. Im not upset with Shell or Gae, or anyone on here. If you are choosing not to believe me, that's up to you I guess. I have no stock in what you believe and certainly don't care about changing your mind lol.

There are people who I will avoid replying to or talking to at all on here, unless necessary, gae and shell are not one of them.

[LastPoet]

I don't know how else I can explain it to you. Im not upset with Shell or Gae, or anyone on here. If you are choosing not to believe me, that's up to you I guess. I have no stock in what you believe and certainly don't care about changing your mind lol.

There are people who I will avoid replying to or talking to at all on here, unless necessary, gae and shell are not one of them.

What i asked you to explain is simple, why coming to this thread with a diatribe that had nothing to do with the discussion? I was having fun feeling real smart for my mefiocre knowledge of physics when you came in with a wall of text that clearly screams "butthurt" about something.

Don't take offense but my old man always told me to man up in smilar situations.

[EgoDeath]

I don't know how else I can explain it to you. Im not upset with Shell or Gae, or anyone on here. If you are choosing not to believe me, that's up to you I guess. I have no stock in what you believe and certainly don't care about changing your mind lol.

There are people who I will avoid replying to or talking to at all on here, unless necessary, gae and shell are not one of them.

What i asked you to explain is simple, why coming to this thread with a diatribe that had nothing to do with the discussion? I was having fun feeling real smart for my mefiocre knowledge of physics when you came in with a wall of text that clearly screams "butthurt" about something.

Don't take offense but my old man always told me to man up in smilar situations.

Despite you trying to make this about me being "butthurt," which is as transparent as it is inaccurate, I was explaining to Drich why he/she shouldn't put too much stock in caring about what the people of this forum think about him. Everything I said to Drich was related to his/her situation, especially considering I've seen people on here treat him this same way.

This wasn't about me complaining; it's simply me saying that that's how things are here so don't get bent out of shape.

But you're free to believe what you want. We can agree to disagree.

[Drich]

Drich, Drich, Drich, we may be infinitely better and more capable than you in all possible ways, but even we can't ever prove you right.   We would have to be as big liars as you to claim we could.

Heh, you showing up would be quite the patent pending on the utmost stupidity.

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Perhaps Drich misspelled patients in his facility, instead of patents. It is starting to make a lot of sense now.

How about just showing us the front page of the issued patent, or just point to it at the US Patent and Trademark Office site, Drich?    Just to so it would strictly be about what you say it is about, and not about your oozing bible juice amidst the odor of your own vast self regard?

the one i owned/wrote and sold it inside a year. (according to my face book page I do have the number but let me see if will try and dig out the patent office letter) what I owned it was a small part of a bigger system. the power management side was the second patented idea i had. It was owned by the people who bought this one, as I was being sponsored by them to build the power management system under contract with them..

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Drich......

This can end right now. But the intellectual bravery needs to be on your end.

LOOK IN THE DAMNED MIRROR!

If Allah does not satisfy you. If Yahweh does not satisfy you. If Vishnu does not satisfy you. If Buddha does not satisfy you, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.

If you can accept that most humans are good, then maybe you need to consider that there is no magic to life. If most humans are good, then that ability was never being handed down to our species from above by a divine super cognition.

don't look now but your preaching/breaking rules to try and have the last word of an argument...

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a semi truce as I know not anyone person can speak for everyone

Back off the emotionally driven hate/kill the messenger tactics and address content.  and I promise to stop taking advantages of opportunities to hypocrisy, general failures in basic understanding in logic and reason and will stop calling people names (sort of fruit cup)

And i would bet the remain christians would also like to be given a little break from the onslaught as well.

Your first problem is you care too much about what these people think of you. This thread is evidence of that. There's a whole list of other problems you have here on this board, but that'd the first.

Keep in mind, this board is not a valid representation of the real world. As a lifelong progressive liberal I can tell you that this board is a far-left echo chamber for a group of individuals who seem to be highly disconnected from reality. That being said, there are also some very intelligent people on here. I'm not one of them (just an average joe), but I enjoy seeing their posts. There are also some people on here who have convinced themselves that they know more than everyone else who talks to them and will go on arguing for 50+ pages in a single thread, refusing to back down on a single point or see the fault in their own logic.

Their egos outweigh their intellect.

That being said, pick and choose your battles here. No matter what you say on here, there will be at least one person who disagrees with you because there are so many different personalities that, even though there's a sort of political status quo on here, there are bound to be variances in all sorts of different opinions.

People on here also use dirty debate tactics. They'll gang up on you, use ad hominems (avoid your point and attack you personally), they'll focus on one minute detail of your argument and beat that to death while ignoring the rest.

Or they'll focus on what you didn't say and beat that to death. Or they'll have a problem with how you worded it. Whatever it is it's always something.

Or, when you do make a good point, they'll just ignore your post because you're not part of the in-crowd. It's childish and silly. And I've talked to several people here on the board in PMs who feel exactly the same way I do. But I suppose you'll have to take my word on that. I don't really care.

This is a place where a lot of people like to come and argue. Maybe they're getting their frustrations out. Who knows?

The people who dislike me on here will read this post and write me off as bitter or angry or they'll make some snide comment or sarcastic remark. Or they'll say that I'm somehow giving you a pass or agreeing with you, when that's not at all what I'm doing. But I expect that type of shit at this point. That's fine. They are predictable as the sun coming up tomorrow is.

Long story short. Stop caring so much. If you make friends here, cool. If you don't, cool. Maybe that's not what your here for. But figure out why you are here and figure out which fights to fight and which ones to walk away from, because no matter what your opinion is, someone will always disagree with you. You can't win em all, nor should you want to.

Besides, you're a Christian on a board full of atheists. You already drew the short stick. And when you're arguing for the existence of a fictional deity, you're on more slippery ground than what I can help you with. The most I can ask is that you remain skeptical, even of your own views at times, which we all should, in a way. It's a good thing to question what you believe every once in a while and see how it matches up with what you used to think.  If winning brownie points with people here really is your concern, learn how to think critically of religion. I think you'll find that an atheist has much more respect, in general, for someone who ADMITS that they don't that god is real, but still believes they are.

At least I do, and I think I can speak for most atheists on here that they probably feel the same.

you are right in that i do care far too much about how i am seen simply as a matter of trying to maintain a balance of integrity and the freedom to push back. often times I'm told I push back too hard ,and don't give these guys a fair chance. before my first thread it had been over a month since the last topic.. just wanted to see if there was anything i could do to spark a real conversation again.

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What i asked you to explain is simple, why coming to this thread with a diatribe that had nothing to do with the discussion? I was having fun feeling real smart for my mefiocre knowledge of physics when you came in with a wall of text that clearly screams "butthurt" about something.

Don't take offense but my old man always told me to man up in smilar situations.

Despite you trying to make this about me being "butthurt," which is as transparent as it is inaccurate, I was explaining to Drich why he/she shouldn't put too much stock in caring about what the people of this forum think about him. Everything I said to Drich was related to his/her situation, especially considering I've seen people on here treat him this same way.

This wasn't about me complaining; it's simply me saying that that's how things are here so don't get bent out of shape.

But you're free to believe what you want. We can agree to disagree.

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so how do i post a pdf?

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Sorry to make you keep looking like a false prophet but there is no book of eggo
https://www.klps.pl/pliki/gospel_fsm_eng.pdf

however on page 80 you have the pastafarian guide to propaganda which in short tells us there is a rule against dogma.. Do you know this word dogma? it in part inspires those self righteous with the need to share the rules of your faith with others in a spam/unsolicited preaching way.

for instance this is a direct qute from the fsm bible



Making up books of the FSM bible just to tell someone they are wrong is being an asshole which is in direct violation of pastafarianism..

So again how are you not a false prophet?

At this point I being a christian are more of a pastafarian than you are.

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seems both of you are gassy

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never said it was smartest guy on the website..

close loop does not make a PMM. it just made no exhaust or waste which fills one parameter of a PMM

BZZZ

You've failed again. The chapter of Eggo is from the King Arthur edition and not the one you linked.


RAmen

again the golden rule the highest law above all others in your religion is do not be a dick... you are being a dick, therefore you are not acting in accordance to your own FSM words!

Udon

[Nay_Sayer]

@Drich wall o text.


Only FSM is perfect.
I strive to be less of a dick every day, Conversely, it seems like you run headfirst into it.

[Editors note; My reading and interpretation of the scared FSM texts is flawless however]

Blessings. RAmen