Where's the outrage?

[Aegon]

So we’ve discovered that being a fucking crazy shitbag doesn’t depend on political ideology.

Exactly.

That's disingenuous. The problem with this whataboutism you've brought up is that this past shooting absolutely depended on political ideology. It was the driving factor in why he did it. It was also the driving factor in the crazy Trump fanatic who mailed bombs to the Clintons and Obamas. It was also the driving factor behind the left-winger shooting at the Republican congressional baseball game practice that put Rep. Scalise in the hospital.

We can't just ignore the fact that people are committing violence in the name of politics. Can't just throw it under the rug, and you can't dismiss the problem that contemporary conservatism has with these white nationalist kids. Saying "Hurr durr the other side" doesn't change the facts. It just makes them both wrong. But the conclusion isn't, "Oh they're both wrong. Both bad. Whatever. Crazy people." That's a faulty conclusion that leaves so many stones unturned.

This may sound wild, but shooting at a bunch of innocent people doesn't automatically make you insane. Maybe by societal definition, but not a medical one. If being willing to commit murder made someone insane, then every soldier who ever lived was certifiable. There's more layers to it, psychologically speaking. And the fact that politics in 2019 America is driving people to do these things, is horrifying beyond belief and not something to dismiss so flippantly.

Why is it so goddamn hard for people to condemn the things their side fucks up? Why are we so attached to our sides? This is ridiculous.

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That's not really a response.

Sure it is.

Just not one you will agree on.

He literally did not directly respond to any of my points.

[onlinebiker]

Exactly.

That's disingenuous. The problem with this whataboutism you've brought up is that this past shooting absolutely depended on political ideology. It was the driving factor in why he did it. It was also the driving factor in the crazy Trump fanatic who mailed bombs to the Clintons and Obamas. It was also the driving factor behind the left-winger shooting at the Republican congressional baseball game practice that put Rep. Scalise in the hospital.

We can't just ignore the fact that people are committing violence in the name of politics. Can't just throw it under the rug, and you can't dismiss the problem that contemporary conservatism has with these white nationalist kids. Saying "Hurr durr the other side" doesn't change the facts. It just makes them both wrong. But the conclusion isn't, "Oh they're both wrong. Both bad. Whatever. Crazy people." That's a faulty conclusion that leaves so many stones unturned.

This may sound wild, but shooting at a bunch of innocent people doesn't automatically make you insane. Maybe by societal definition, but not a medical one. If being willing to commit murder made someone insane, then every soldier who ever lived was certifiable. There's more layers to it, psychologically speaking. And the fact that politics in 2019 America is driving people to do these things, is horrifying beyond belief and not something to dismiss so flippantly.

Why is it so goddamn hard for people to condemn the things their side fucks up? Why are we so attached to our sides? This is ridiculous.

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Sure it is.

Just not one you will agree on.

He literally did not directly respond to any of my points.

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. I get that all the time.

[The Grand Nudger]

Deep down, every single one of us houses a killer. We didn’t end up on top of this planet and the pile of human bones beneath our feet on account of our good natured gentility.



It’s just an issue of finding the trigger, or conditioning one into existence. Eliminationist rhetoric, and stoking fears of an invasion of rapists and murders engaged in a great replacement through the victimization of whites has been a solid producer of cold bodies, historically speaking.

[Fireball]

Deep down, every single one of us houses a killer.  We didn’t end up on top of this planet and the pile of human bones beneath our feet on account of our good natured gentility.



It’s just an issue of finding the trigger, or conditioning one into existence.  Eliminationist rhetoric, and stoking fears of an invasion of rapists and murders engaged in a great replacement through the victimization of whites has been a solid producer of cold bodies, historically speaking.

We are genetically vicious brutes, for the most part. We get educated/conditioned out of it when we're young. But it's always lurking there just below the surface. I can see that even in myself. I do, however, have enough sense to not indulge in it, since I value my personal freedom.

[The Grand Nudger]

Which is what makes that sort of rhetoric so dangerous coming from the executive.

Beat em up, I’ll pay your legal fees.

Human rights abuse, Ill pardon you.

Kill em? Well, they are an invading army. Murderers rapists and thieves, but you can really only get away with that in the panhandle.

Triggering a patriotic compulsion, however misplaced or twisted their idea of patriotism may be.....another solid body producer.

[A Godzilla fan]

I read somewhere that the Dayton shooter was a proud Antifa member.

[The Valkyrie]

I read somewhere that Hitler was a scapegoat and the Holocaust didn’t happen.

That Elvis is still alive and living on Mars.

That the British royal family are reptilian aliens and that our reality isn’t real.

The point being, don’t always believe something you read “somewhere”.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The point being, don’t always believe something you read “somewhere”.

*cancels wire transfer to Nigerian prince*

Boru

[onlinebiker]

The point being, don’t always believe something you read “somewhere”.

*cancels wire transfer to Nigerian prince*

Boru

Now it' s ALLL MINE!