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Allow Me to Introduce Myself
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Allow Me to Introduce Myself
Hello,

I've been reading threads here for years.  Decided to join.  I don't think I'll be posting often as I don't have a lot of free time, but there have been a few times I would have liked to comment.  I used to post on TTA forum under the screen name True Scotsman.  

I'm a woodworker by trade and an avid cyclist, both mountain biking and road.  

Although I am an atheist, that's not my worldview.  I'm an Objectivist.  As such I reject the notion of the supernatural in all its variations.  I won't be debating the existence of gods because I don't consider the existence of gods to be debatable.  Debate presupposes the primacy of existence principle, the notion of gods denies it.  Therefore, debating the existence of gods commits the fallacy of the stolen concept and so it is irrational.  I won't be asking anyone for evidence for gods because the concept evidence presupposes the primacy of existence which the notion of a god rejects.  I won't ask anyone for proof for the same reason.  Proof presupposes metaphysical objectivism, the notion of god rests on metaphysical subjectivism. Reason and logic both assume the primacy of existence and I won't set reason aside for the sake of argument.  

I was raised in the Methodist church but my family wasn't very religious.  We stopped going to church when I was 11 or 12 except on Easter and Christmas and then a few years later stopped going at all.  I grew up in the Bible belt. I asked a lot of questions going back to the age of 7 and was told not to ask those questions but to have faith.  This didn't sit well with me.  I became an atheist about 2008.  My reason was that I found that my beliefs were not justified in reason.  I've only read one book on atheism, Peter Boghossian's A Manuel For Creating Atheists.  I came to my atheism all on my own.  Objectivism sealed it for me.  For many years I was a weak atheist, for the last five or six years, I've been a strong atheist.
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
(August 26, 2019 at 11:58 pm)Objectivist Wrote: Hello,

I've been reading threads here for years.  Decided to join.  I don't think I'll be posting often as I don't have a lot of free time, but there have been a few times I would have liked to comment.  I used to post on TTA forum under the screen name True Scotsman.  

I'm a woodworker by trade and an avid cyclist, both mountain biking and road.  

Although I am an atheist, that's not my worldview.  I'm an Objectivist.  As such I reject the notion of the supernatural in all its variations.  I won't be debating the existence of gods because I don't consider the existence of gods to be debatable.  Debate presupposes the primacy of existence principle, the notion of gods denies it.  Therefore, debating the existence of gods commits the fallacy of the stolen concept and so it is irrational.  I won't be asking anyone for evidence for gods because the concept evidence presupposes the primacy of existence which the notion of a god rejects.  I won't ask anyone for proof for the same reason.  Proof presupposes metaphysical objectivism, the notion of god rests on metaphysical subjectivism. Reason and logic both assume the primacy of existence and I won't set reason aside for the sake of argument.  

I was raised in the Methodist church but my family wasn't very religious.  We stopped going to church when I was 11 or 12 except on Easter and Christmas and then a few years later stopped going at all.  I grew up in the Bible belt. I asked a lot of questions going back to the age of 7 and was told not to ask those questions but to have faith.  This didn't sit well with me.  I became an atheist about 2008.  My reason was that I found that my beliefs were not justified in reason.  I've only read one book on atheism, Peter Boghossian's A Manuel For Creating Atheists.  I came to my atheism all on my own.  Objectivism sealed it for me.  For many years I was a weak atheist, for the last five or six years, I've been a strong atheist.

When you say Objectivism, is that the Ayn Rand kind?
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
(August 27, 2019 at 12:07 am)Belaqua Wrote:
(August 26, 2019 at 11:58 pm)Objectivist Wrote: Hello,

I've been reading threads here for years.  Decided to join.  I don't think I'll be posting often as I don't have a lot of free time, but there have been a few times I would have liked to comment.  I used to post on TTA forum under the screen name True Scotsman.  

I'm a woodworker by trade and an avid cyclist, both mountain biking and road.  

Although I am an atheist, that's not my worldview.  I'm an Objectivist.  As such I reject the notion of the supernatural in all its variations.  I won't be debating the existence of gods because I don't consider the existence of gods to be debatable.  Debate presupposes the primacy of existence principle, the notion of gods denies it.  Therefore, debating the existence of gods commits the fallacy of the stolen concept and so it is irrational.  I won't be asking anyone for evidence for gods because the concept evidence presupposes the primacy of existence which the notion of a god rejects.  I won't ask anyone for proof for the same reason.  Proof presupposes metaphysical objectivism, the notion of god rests on metaphysical subjectivism. Reason and logic both assume the primacy of existence and I won't set reason aside for the sake of argument.  

I was raised in the Methodist church but my family wasn't very religious.  We stopped going to church when I was 11 or 12 except on Easter and Christmas and then a few years later stopped going at all.  I grew up in the Bible belt. I asked a lot of questions going back to the age of 7 and was told not to ask those questions but to have faith.  This didn't sit well with me.  I became an atheist about 2008.  My reason was that I found that my beliefs were not justified in reason.  I've only read one book on atheism, Peter Boghossian's A Manuel For Creating Atheists.  I came to my atheism all on my own.  Objectivism sealed it for me.  For many years I was a weak atheist, for the last five or six years, I've been a strong atheist.

When you say Objectivism, is that the Ayn Rand kind?
Yes.
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
Let me guess, you’re also a man of wealth and taste?

Seriously, though, a lot of us are left-leaning, so expect a lot of debate. And dismissal of Rand’s talent as a novelist.
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
(August 27, 2019 at 12:21 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Let me guess, you’re also a man of wealth and taste?

Seriously, though, a lot of us are left-leaning, so expect a lot of debate. And dismissal of Rand’s talent as a novelist.

Thanks for the warning Rev.  I'm used to it.  I like having ideas challenged.
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
(August 27, 2019 at 12:28 am)Objectivist Wrote:
(August 27, 2019 at 12:21 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Let me guess, you’re also a man of wealth and taste?

Seriously, though, a lot of us are left-leaning, so expect a lot of debate. And dismissal of Rand’s talent as a novelist.

Thanks for the warning Rev.  I'm used to it.  I like having ideas challenged.

By nature an atheist should be first and foremost a skeptic.


Welcome aboard.
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
(August 27, 2019 at 1:40 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(August 27, 2019 at 12:28 am)Objectivist Wrote: Thanks for the warning Rev.  I'm used to it.  I like having ideas challenged.

By nature an atheist should be first and foremost a skeptic.


Welcome aboard.

Im pretty sceptic about that ...
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
(August 27, 2019 at 1:40 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(August 27, 2019 at 12:28 am)Objectivist Wrote: Thanks for the warning Rev.  I'm used to it.  I like having ideas challenged.

By nature an atheist should be first and foremost a skeptic.


Welcome aboard.

Thank you.
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
(August 26, 2019 at 11:58 pm)Objectivist Wrote: Hello,

I've been reading threads here for years.  Decided to join.  I don't think I'll be posting often as I don't have a lot of free time, but there have been a few times I would have liked to comment.  I used to post on TTA forum under the screen name True Scotsman.  

I'm a woodworker by trade and an avid cyclist, both mountain biking and road.  

Although I am an atheist, that's not my worldview.  I'm an Objectivist.  As such I reject the notion of the supernatural in all its variations.  I won't be debating the existence of gods because I don't consider the existence of gods to be debatable.  Debate presupposes the primacy of existence principle, the notion of gods denies it.  Therefore, debating the existence of gods commits the fallacy of the stolen concept and so it is irrational.  I won't be asking anyone for evidence for gods because the concept evidence presupposes the primacy of existence which the notion of a god rejects.  I won't ask anyone for proof for the same reason.  Proof presupposes metaphysical objectivism, the notion of god rests on metaphysical subjectivism. Reason and logic both assume the primacy of existence and I won't set reason aside for the sake of argument.  

I was raised in the Methodist church but my family wasn't very religious.  We stopped going to church when I was 11 or 12 except on Easter and Christmas and then a few years later stopped going at all.  I grew up in the Bible belt. I asked a lot of questions going back to the age of 7 and was told not to ask those questions but to have faith.  This didn't sit well with me.  I became an atheist about 2008.  My reason was that I found that my beliefs were not justified in reason.  I've only read one book on atheism, Peter Boghossian's A Manuel For Creating Atheists.  I came to my atheism all on my own.  Objectivism sealed it for me.  For many years I was a weak atheist, for the last five or six years, I've been a strong atheist.

Welcome from Portugal.
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RE: Allow Me to Introduce Myself
As a woodworker you should know the answer:

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck had a really well-equipped shop and no spouse to make annoying demands like "are you ever coming to bed?"
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