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Eternity
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Eternity
If there is a heaven and you make it there, what might you expect to be doing in a billion years and what relevance would your 80ish years of life on Earth have?
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#2
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My guess is masturbating, at least mentally. 

I wonder is there are friction burns in heaven?
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#3
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(September 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm)Darwinian Wrote: If there is a heaven and you make it there, what might you expect to be doing in a billion years and what relevance would your 80ish years of life on Earth have?

There is a wonderful book called The Great Chain of Being by Arthur Lovejoy which discusses, in part, different Christian views of heaven. Highly recommended. He summarizes two types: those that see heaven as an extension of this life, only better, and those which see heaven as radically different. 

Dante's Paradiso is a good example of the radically different type, and it's in keeping with the official theology of the Catholic church -- allowing for certain poetic differences. 

Dante's heaven is much in line with Neoplatonic thought. It is joining with the pure Good. But there is no time or space there, so the idea of how you spend your time is irrelevant.
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(September 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm)Belaqua Wrote:
(September 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm)Darwinian Wrote: If there is a heaven and you make it there, what might you expect to be doing in a billion years and what relevance would your 80ish years of life on Earth have?

There is a wonderful book called The Great Chain of Being by Arthur Lovejoy which discusses, in part, different Christian views of heaven. Highly recommended. He summarizes two types: those that see heaven as an extension of this life, only better, and those which see heaven as radically different. 

Dante's Paradiso is a good example of the radically different type, and it's in keeping with the official theology of the Catholic church -- allowing for certain poetic differences. 

Dante's heaven is much in line with Neoplatonic thought. It is joining with the pure Good. But there is no time or space there, so the idea of how you spend your time is irrelevant.

I don't think he asked you to brag about knowing that one christian thinks this and one that. He asked what YOU would be doing.

Why the hell do you always feel the need to be pompous?
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#5
RE: Eternity
I don't plan to die. I'm starting to really believe I live in the singularity age. Although seeing how close we are to having flying cars, maybe uploading my mind into the cloud isn't right around the corner.
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#6
RE: Eternity
(September 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm)Darwinian Wrote: If there is a heaven and you make it there, what might you expect to be doing in a billion years and what relevance would your 80ish years of life on Earth have?

*Shrug*

Every one will be so busy feasting, drinking and telling yarns that no one will notice the time passing. In Valhalla or on the rest of the planes.


Who cares? There'll be endless mead. Roast boar etc endlessly untill every one again picks up their sword and aid the All Father with the battle of Ragnarok

Cheers.

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#7
RE: Eternity
Have all the fun I can.
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#8
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What eternity? The so called heaven won't last forever according to those that promised it, like Jesus who said Heaven will perish and you can realise why: God's sickle-wielding death angels will have nothing to do and will probably lop each other to pieces. And God's beloved eyeball-monsters that are singing to him eternally will eventually get extremely annoying.
Before long, it will all fall apart. God will destroy New Jerusalem. All humans will end up in hell. Especially since God plans to put a tree of life in the middle of New Jerusalem city. (Rev. 22:2)

So God will kill everyone, he will wipe out Earth, then wipe out everything in a fit of rage. God will be totally alone again. Although there are things God can't destroy: water and dark. And also the sea monster Leviathan hidden in its depths, and hell, teeming with millions of souls who hated him, ruled by his arch-nemesis, Satan.

God will be sitting in darkness and brooding for a long time until he speaks again "Let there be light."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(September 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm)Belaqua Wrote:  Dante's Paradiso is a good example of the radically different type, and it's in keeping with the official theology of the Catholic church -- allowing for certain poetic differences. 

Talking about Dante and Catholics, Roger Ebert was a catholic when he was a kid and he had a conversation with a priest about Dante's ideas/ visions of afterlife and the priest dismissed Dante's ideas about afterlife as nonsense. Here's from Ebert's autobiography

Quote:I was already a little smartass, and asked my seminarian: "If hell is the way they describe it, how can the punishment for impurity be worse than the punishment for anything else?" The seminarian smiled condescendingly. "The notion of levels of hell comes from Dante," he said. "He was a great poet but an amateur theologian."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#10
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Directing Calvin Klein commercials.
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