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RE: Eternity
September 20, 2019 at 1:50 am
(September 18, 2019 at 5:15 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (September 18, 2019 at 1:32 am)Godscreated Wrote: God will give you for living according to His will and learning all you can about Him prior to meeting Him in person. Those riches do not necessarily mean physical things either, they will be revealed in heaven.
Indeed those "riches" means stuff like status levels Matthew 11: 11, "He that is least in the Kingdom of heaven is greater than he.", so that means some Christians in Heaven will be bosses while other servants. And also, some will have higher ranks in Heavenly army while some low ranks. Probably those gung-ho weapons wielding Christians will be sergeants and majors while those pacifist Christians will be privates. No wonder so many Christians are violent - they don't want to have low status in the Heavenly army under General Michael.
And you can forget about eternity because Matthew 24:35 says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." I mean Christians will be spending eternity in Haven that will vanish.
Of course it would be you who answers and still with the dumbest things one could imagine. You spout scripture with no understanding of it's meaning, that makes you a moron with no less than moronic ideas. There is so much wrong with what you stated it would take forever to correct it, I'll just go on as if you do not exist and you can believe what you want. Come judgment day you WILL dance to a different tune. This is the end of this conversation with you.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Eternity
September 20, 2019 at 2:45 am
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(September 20, 2019 at 1:50 am)Godscreated Wrote: Of course it would be you who answers and still with the dumbest things one could imagine. You spout scripture with no understanding of it's meaning, that makes you a moron with no less than moronic ideas.
What is moronic, GC? The armies in heaven? I agree. Look up and see: there are no armies in heaven, although Bible claims it does have armies, like Revelation 19:14 says, "The armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses." -- So GC it seems you're one of those Christians that won't be getting a horse when they recruit you in heaven's army. It seems you'll be one of those boors that collects horseshit.
(September 20, 2019 at 1:50 am)Godscreated Wrote: Come judgment day you WILL dance to a different tune. This is the end of this conversation with you.
GC
So that's why you are a Christian - because you are afraid that you will be tortured by your God. Poor, abused GC. But don't be afraid. There won't be a Judgment Day because it's just one of those stupid inventions by ancient bronze age barbarians that doesn't make any sense. I mean you say that I will be punished on Judgment Day because I don't believe in Jesus, but if one is saved by faith, then why have a Judgment Day to begin with? Why have what they refer to as the "Great White Throne Judgment," when the decision as to whether you will spend eternity in heaven or hell is consummated on the day you die? So you see it doesn't make any sense. Stop being afraid.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Eternity
September 21, 2019 at 1:24 am
It's an escape route from hell; that itself will be a gift that the citizens of heaven will never get bored of.
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RE: Eternity
September 22, 2019 at 12:14 pm
(September 21, 2019 at 1:24 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: It's an escape route from hell; that itself will be a gift that the citizens of heaven will never get bored of.
And do you and GC get to live in the same neighborhood in heaven and maybe even get to be roommates? I mean are members of all religions like Shia Muslims, Mormons, Buddhists, Scientologists, Wiccans, Pastafarians clumped together or do different religions get like different neighborhoods of heaven?
If you do get clumped all together do you think people like GC or Jerry Falwell will be glad to have a Muslim like you as a neighbor or even a roommate? Or would you be glad to live near Jerry Falwell or Ray Comfort in Heaven for eternity?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Eternity
September 23, 2019 at 11:24 am
(September 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm)Darwinian Wrote: If there is a heaven and you make it there, what might you expect to be doing in a billion years and what relevance would your 80ish years of life on Earth have?
my @80 years are former things and former things shall not be remembered or come into mind in the new Heaven. I probably will just be thanking and enjoying pure true connection to the Creator of all things and fellow inhabitants endlessly. And endless mind gives me plenty to explore in an endless time.
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RE: Eternity
September 24, 2019 at 10:44 am
(September 18, 2019 at 5:55 pm)Grandizer Wrote: (September 18, 2019 at 4:39 pm)Aegon Wrote: Unless you're under 10 years old I wouldn't bank on it.
Even if under 10 years old, I still wouldn't bank on it.
I dunno, I plan to live forever... so far, so good.
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