teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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"Laughing At Religion" Meme Thread
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
(November 9, 2024 at 1:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: In a select few instances slavery is condoned - instances where enemies of Israel, those tribes who sacrificed children and spent centuries raiding and killing the Hebrew people, were defeated in war. There is nothing here to be ashamed of, most Western Christians simply are not aware of the historical contexts and thus cannot provide a satisfactory answer of the top of their head. I would highly recommend reading Philemon - a letter written by a friend to another, on behalf of a slave - if you want to see how Christians view slavery. Quote:In a select few instances slavery is condoned - instances where enemies of Israel, those tribes who sacrificed children and spent centuries raiding and killing the Hebrew people, were defeated in war.See there bad so slavery is fine ....Great defense Quote:There is nothing here to be ashamed of, most Western Christians simply are not aware of the historical contexts and thus cannot provide a satisfactory answer of the top of their head.The context doesn't matter Quote:I would highly recommend reading Philemon - a letter written by a friend to another, on behalf of a slave - if you want to see how Christians view slavery.That letter means about as much as a fart in the wind
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM RE: "Laughing At Religion" Meme Thread
November 9, 2024 at 2:08 am
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(November 9, 2024 at 1:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:But see the people who you enslaved were bad so that makes it okay ....... Also a guy wrote a letter so that makes everything okay.....Historical context .....Lol
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM RE: "Laughing At Religion" Meme Thread
November 9, 2024 at 2:10 am
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2024 at 2:11 am by Fake Messiah.)
(November 9, 2024 at 1:58 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: In a select few instances slavery is condoned - instances where enemies of Israel, those tribes who sacrificed children and spent centuries raiding and killing the Hebrew people, were defeated in war. I have seen Christians view slavery, like when Paul in the Bible says to slaves to obey their masters. Or when Pope Nicholas V issued a bull in the 15th century in which he allowed Europeans to enslave and kidnap the pagan people of Africa as long as they baptized them first. Popes and other fathers of the Catholic Church owned slaves as late as 1800. Jesuits in colonial Maryland and nuns in Europe and Latin America owned slaves. The Church did not condemn slavery until 1888 after every Western nation had abolished the practice. The church even had slaves in the 20th century, in those washeries where they kept unpaid labor as girls to wash clothes for money that the Church kept to itself.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
(November 9, 2024 at 2:10 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:But fake if people are bad it's okay to enslave them .......Becaise their bad(November 9, 2024 at 1:58 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: In a select few instances slavery is condoned - instances where enemies of Israel, those tribes who sacrificed children and spent centuries raiding and killing the Hebrew people, were defeated in war.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM RE: "Laughing At Religion" Meme Thread
November 9, 2024 at 2:42 am
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2024 at 3:20 am by TheWhiteMarten.)
(November 9, 2024 at 2:10 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(November 9, 2024 at 1:58 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: In a select few instances slavery is condoned - instances where enemies of Israel, those tribes who sacrificed children and spent centuries raiding and killing the Hebrew people, were defeated in war. What is the purpose in telling the slaves to obey their masters? Okay. Okay, although that's also incorrect in that the Church condemned slavery long before; Eugene IV (1435), Papal Bull Silcut Dudum... Paul III (1537), pontifical decree "The Sublime God," and several other Popes all explicitly and unequivocally called out and condemned slavery in their time; the Vatican is not just a religious but a political institution, and particularly following the Black Death the political games went wild. Unfortunately, pagans and atheists managed to get back into control at Rome - doing some truly horrific damage in the 15 and 1600s. If we recognize Peter as the first Pope, then we can see that the church has condemned the mistreatment of slaves - and to an extreme degree the entire institution of slavery - from the first century A.D. |
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