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RE: Exorcisms
October 25, 2019 at 8:52 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2019 at 8:55 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
I think exorcisms are more of a Catholic thing than a Christian thing in general; you don't hear much about it among Protestants. Demonic possessions are seen as possible, but isolated to the time of Christ. You don't come across it in the Old Testament, or really anywhere else.
I also don't think stereotypical possessions present themselves the way Schizophrenia does; perhaps someone hearing voices can be seen as having a demonic encounter, but all the twisting and growling doesn't sound like schizophrenia. Clinical psychology isn't my specialty, however.
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RE: Exorcisms
October 25, 2019 at 9:09 pm
(October 25, 2019 at 8:52 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I think exorcisms are more of a Catholic thing than a Christian thing in general; you don't hear much about it among Protestants. Demonic possessions are seen as possible, but isolated to the time of Christ. You don't come across it in the Old Testament, or really anywhere else.
I also don't think stereotypical possessions present themselves the way Schizophrenia does; perhaps someone hearing voices can be seen as having a demonic encounter, but all the twisting and growling doesn't sound like schizophrenia. Clinical psychology isn't my specialty, however.
Catholics are not christians???
I know, I know, slip of the fingers. You are forgiven my son. That will be $20.00.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Exorcisms
October 25, 2019 at 9:11 pm
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(October 25, 2019 at 9:09 pm)brewer Wrote: Catholics are not christians???
I know, I know, slip of the fingers. You are forgiven my son. That will be $20.00.
The two words you omitted answer your question. Sometimes substitutions help improve comprehension of sentences that you may be struggling with. Let me demonstrate by substituting the nouns in that sentence with something analogous:
-I think amphibious operations are more of a Marine thing than a Military thing in general.
Does that sentence lead you to believe Marines are not part of the military?
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RE: Exorcisms
October 25, 2019 at 9:16 pm
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Exorcisms
October 26, 2019 at 12:57 am
(October 25, 2019 at 8:52 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I think exorcisms are more of a Catholic thing than a Christian thing in general; you don't hear much about it among Protestants.
Think again
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Exorcisms
October 26, 2019 at 1:11 am
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2019 at 1:15 am by WinterHold.)
(October 25, 2019 at 5:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 25, 2019 at 11:03 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Casualties:
-WW1: 40 Million
-9/11: 2,977 victims
Your comparison is obsolete.
My comparison was about behavior and motivation, not numbers.
Boru
Exactly. Behavior yields numbers; you can even measure how disastrous an action is by looking at its conclusion which is usually represented by numbers of casualties.
(October 25, 2019 at 5:49 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: (October 25, 2019 at 11:03 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Casualties:
-WW1: 40 Million
-9/11: 2,977 victims
Your comparison is obsolete.
Yeah... cuz everyone knows, if less than 3,000 people died, it basically never happened. You're a real idiot, you know that?
No; but it is better to look at how disastrous the conclusion of an action is before talking about it.
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RE: Exorcisms
October 26, 2019 at 3:12 am
(October 25, 2019 at 8:52 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I think exorcisms are more of a Catholic thing than a Christian thing in general; you don't hear much about it among Protestants. Demonic possessions are seen as possible, but isolated to the time of Christ. You don't come across it in the Old Testament, or really anywhere else.
I also don't think stereotypical possessions present themselves the way Schizophrenia does; perhaps someone hearing voices can be seen as having a demonic encounter, but all the twisting and growling doesn't sound like schizophrenia. Clinical psychology isn't my specialty, however.
Well, that's not really true. Plenty of Christian denominations deal with exorcisms, though I would probably agree that Catholics, specifically, are more into it than the other denominations.
Also, I think schizophrenia contains a pretty broad range of symptoms and issues, so I wouldn't necessarily rule anything out. Anyway, people can have more than one mental illness... you're not actually suggesting that demonic possession is real, are you?
(October 26, 2019 at 1:11 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No; but it is better to look at how disastrous the conclusion of an action is before talking about it.
So, 9/11 wasn't disastrous enough to be worth talking about?
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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RE: Exorcisms
October 26, 2019 at 5:02 am
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Quote:Exactly. Behavior yields numbers; you can even measure how disastrous an action is by looking at its conclusion which is usually represented by numbers of casualties.
Was WWI more disastrous than the WTC attacks? No possible doubt of it. But whether an action might be considered 'demonic' (in the sense you used) really has nothing to do with the casualty numbers. The act of torturing, raping and murdering a single child would, by normal people, be seen as more 'demonic' than a landslide which kills a thousand people.
Numbers don't matter as much as you seem to think.
Boru
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RE: Exorcisms
October 26, 2019 at 6:12 pm
WTF, marines are part of the military!
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RE: Exorcisms
October 26, 2019 at 7:54 pm
I don't know much about exorcism, but it sounds like just torturing someone into compliance. Tie them down, and perform rituals on them until they start saying what you want them to say, and doing what you want them to do. Or die from the experience.
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