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Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive?
RE: Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive?
(February 8, 2020 at 6:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(February 8, 2020 at 6:32 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: I've often found the predictions of my Christian brothers and sisters of the coming persecution a little far fetched. But here, in this thread, I find the ideas and hatred towards Christians that make those predictions a little more believable. I have no hesitation in describing you as Nazis and Stalinists. 

Now if I lived in 1938 Berlin I wouldn't bother to sit down with some guy and try to discuss with him the Jewish Problem. " Hans, do you really think the Jews stabbed Germany in the back in 1918 and don't you think the Nuremberg Laws might go a bit too far? Can't we talk this through?" The same goes for people here who propose using the power of the state, through child welfare laws, to prevent Christian parents from teaching their children Christianity. And of course the same arguments would apply to Muslim parents.


Now, this website is of course the absolute bottom of the barrel. But still, not only are you scoffers and intellectual frauds but now you are my enemy. And I mean that in earnest. Thanks for the warning signals. See you in the streets.

So we're nazis and Stalin style communists?

You know those aren't on the same side, right?

I see you're also suffering from the standard Christian persecution complex, "you don't agree with me so you're attacking my faith and me directly.  Boo-hoo!"

But since you're painting everyone on this website with the same brush, feel free to fuck off to a conservative fundamentalist forum.

Panic  We're now it's enemies! Heaven forfend! I has a scareds. Rolleyes
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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RE: Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive?
(February 8, 2020 at 7:00 pm)Fireball Wrote:
(February 8, 2020 at 6:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So we're nazis and Stalin style communists?

You know those aren't on the same side, right?

I see you're also suffering from the standard Christian persecution complex, "you don't agree with me so you're attacking my faith and me directly.  Boo-hoo!"

But since you're painting everyone on this website with the same brush, feel free to fuck off to a conservative fundamentalist forum.

Panic  We're now it's enemies! Heaven forfend! I has a scareds. Rolleyes

The prayers will be menacing!
Dying to live, living to die.
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RE: Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive?
(February 8, 2020 at 6:32 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: I've often found the predictions of my Christian brothers and sisters of the coming persecution a little far fetched.
The prediction that failed. Nice.

(February 8, 2020 at 6:32 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: But here, in this thread, I find the ideas and hatred towards Christians that make those predictions a little more believable. I have no hesitation in describing you as Nazis and Stalinists. 
Stupid ideas in the marketplace of ideas get mocked. Grow up. You are merely being challenged to defend you frankly nutty ideas with...anything at all. And you are failing miserably.

Put it this way. If I claimed that the universe was formed by Coatzecoatl using a salvaged unicorn horn as a masturbation aid, you would promptly tell me to get a grip. Your claims are no different.

(February 8, 2020 at 6:32 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: Now if I lived in 1938 Berlin I wouldn't bother to sit down with some guy and try to discuss with him the Jewish Problem. " Hans, do you really think the Jews stabbed Germany in the back in 1918 and don't you think the Nuremberg Laws might go a bit too far? Can't we talk this through?" The same goes for people here who propose using the power of the state, through child welfare laws, to prevent Christian parents from teaching their children Christianity. And of course the same arguments would apply to Muslim parents.
Nice Godwin, but it helps you not a whit. Hitler was a christian, the nazis were christian, the german soldiers were christian. They even wore it with pride. You lose.

(February 8, 2020 at 6:32 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: Now, this website is of course the absolute bottom of the barrel. But still, not only are you scoffers and intellectual frauds but now you are my enemy. And I mean that in earnest. Thanks for the warning signals. See you in the streets.
You can run away from questions you are unable to answer. This is a result of YOUR lack, not ours. Nobody here can help the simple fragility of your baseless faith. One might think that if your faith was robust enough to withstand scrutiny, then you might be willing to stand up to scrutiny.

Turns out that scrutiny causes you not to run but outright sprint away. Once again, that is your issue. If your "faith" is so fragile, perhaps you should examine that "faith".

(February 8, 2020 at 7:03 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(February 8, 2020 at 7:00 pm)Fireball Wrote: Panic  We're now it's enemies! Heaven forfend! I has a scareds. Rolleyes

The prayers will be menacing!

He could pray for us all to die. But that will inevitably happen either way, so just a bit of a useless prayer.
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RE: Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive?
(February 8, 2020 at 6:32 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: I've often found the predictions of my Christian brothers and sisters of the coming persecution a little far fetched. But here, in this thread, I find the ideas and hatred towards Christians that make those predictions a little more believable. I have no hesitation in describing you as Nazis and Stalinists. 

Matthew 5:44


Quote:Now if I lived in 1938 Berlin I wouldn't bother to sit down with some guy and try to discuss with him the Jewish Problem. " Hans, do you really think the Jews stabbed Germany in the back in 1918 and don't you think the Nuremberg Laws might go a bit too far? Can't we talk this through?" The same goes for people here who propose using the power of the state, through child welfare laws, to prevent Christian parents from teaching their children Christianity. And of course the same arguments would apply to Muslim parents.

Matthew 18:6

Quote:Now, this website is of course the absolute bottom of the barrel. But still, not only are you scoffers and intellectual frauds

Matthew 5:22


Quote:but now you are my enemy. And I mean that in earnest. Thanks for the warning signals.  See you in the streets.



Luke 6:27-30

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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive?
(February 8, 2020 at 4:21 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: Now there's a statement I find dubious. As doubtful as another Jesse Smolett claim about harassment. But I'm willing to look at the evidence. Just not now.

Here's another answer to your Fatima post

(February 8, 2020 at 4:21 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: Even if what you say is true how does the state or the Church or anyone else get tens of thousands of people, Christians and non-Christians, to see what they saw about the sun?  This is well documented. Their testimony has been written down. Even Fake and the other guy would have to accept that is evidence.

No, I do not believe in the "miracle" of the Sun, just like majority of the people who were present at the so called miracle of the Sun didn't see anything and remained unconvinced.

And considering how Christians react to things, the whole "miracle" of the Sun was probably like this bathroom door: Christians see miracles, they see Mary and Jesus and a holy place they need make a pilgrimage; while sober people just see a bathroom door
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I would also be more convinced if God or Mary performed a miracle of stopping the holocaust and many other tragedies instead of monkeying around light effects in the sky.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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