Dogs

[arewethereyet]

Brian your OP regarding dog owners (and cat owners) who do not take good responsible care of their pets is valid. For the safety of others and of the animal it is important that they be contained and trained.

But, as usual, you get hung up in the wrong things. Your ranting about big dogs and certain breeds are your issues. The first dog I owned as an adult was a male Golden Retriever. A larger breed of dog. One of the most mellow, well-behaved dogs I have ever had the pleasure of owning. In your limited view he was a big dog and therefore dangerous. He was dangerous if you had an issue with a dog that loved to be petted and talked to...never tugged on a leash...not one time did he growl. His size had nothing to do with his temperament.

I just left my son's house. I went to drop off a birthday cake to him. His girlfriend has a female Pit named Leah. She has had her about 10 years...about as long as her daughter is old. The biggest danger I have ever witnessed out of Leah is that she is so damned excited to see me that she nearly knocks me over in her exuberance knowing that I will scratch her in that special spot and I may also have a couple treats in my pocket. She is otherwise as gentle and loving as my Golden was.

We have owned a Doberman and German Shepherds. The Doberman developed a brain tumor which caused aggression because of pressure on his brain and I had to have him put down - his aggression was not because of his breed. The GSDs I have had were intimidating looking but were well-behaved and loving but high energy. We made sure they got lots of exercise to burn off all that energy.

I have encountered tiny little dogs that may not be able to hurt you really badly but who have bad attitudes and are dangerous especially with small children.

Currently we have three medium sized dogs. They are either in our house, our fenced back yard, or on a leash...always. Because that's what responsible dog servants do.

Everything is so damn all or nothing with you.

Simply - animal ownership requires taking responsibility for that animal in all ways. The size and breed aren't the be all end all of how an animal (especially a dog) will behave.

Put down the damn crack pipe and call animal control if there are dogs running loose in your neighborhood.

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I mean hey, if I had a personal vendetta against people with big dogs I wouldn't exactly be approaching them directly either (because of the, ya know, big dogs they own and all), so if yelling into a screen is therapeutic, so be it. Lest he get any ideas and have his arms bitten off.  

NOBODY KNOWS THE PAIN OF BEING AN ABBA FAN ACCEPT ABBA FANS!

Or, maybe some dog owners are dicks, like parents who ignore their own failings with human kids.

It is never the animal's fault. I don't hate dogs. I do hate even human parents of human kids whom refuse to see their own bad leadership. 

My only point in my OP was that some dog owners feel self entitled like asshoes who speed in sports cares on highways as if it were their own personal road.

I always speed in my sports care...I pay taxes for that.

[Fireball]

Ah, so then it was basically a rant. Nothing wrong with that, I was just checking. I wish you joy in your endeavors against irresponsible big-dog owners.

Brain is independently wealthy and is quite lonely living by himself; it appears that this place is the sole source of his outside world communication. I has a sads for him.

[brewer]

I am a cat fan. But, if I were ever to own a dog again, it would be as microscopic as a Dachshund or Chihuahua. Big dogs are great for testosterone movies, but suck in reality when they think they are doing the right thing defending their owners, but are not human, and cant understand the needles and stupid positions their owners put them in.

You have an opinion, but not much of a clue.

As far as frequency of bites, the size does not matter as much as the temperament. And that can be because of the breed(ing), training, socialization or a combination. For years the Cocker Spaniel held the record for the most bites in the US.

Yes, when bogs bite, the large ones often do the most damage. And lets face it, like you said, there are some people should not own dogs.

[Brian37]

Brian your OP regarding dog owners (and cat owners) who do not take good responsible care of their pets is valid.  For the safety of others and of the animal it is important that they be contained and trained.

But, as usual, you get hung up in the wrong things.  Your ranting about big dogs and certain breeds are your issues.  The first dog I owned as an adult was a male Golden Retriever.  A larger breed of dog.  One of the most mellow, well-behaved dogs I have ever had the pleasure of owning.  In your limited view he was a big dog and therefore dangerous.  He was dangerous if you had an issue with a dog that loved to be petted and talked to...never tugged on a leash...not one time did he growl.  His size had nothing to do with his temperament.

I just left my son's house.  I went to drop off a birthday cake to him.  His girlfriend has a female Pit named Leah.  She has had her about 10 years...about as long as her daughter is old.  The biggest danger I have ever witnessed out of Leah is that she is so damned excited to see me that she nearly knocks me over in her exuberance knowing that I will scratch her in that special spot and I may also have a couple treats in my pocket.  She is otherwise as gentle and loving as my Golden was.

We have owned a Doberman and German Shepherds.  The Doberman developed a brain tumor which caused aggression because of pressure on his brain and I had to have him put down - his aggression was not because of his breed.  The GSDs I have had were intimidating looking but were well-behaved and loving but high energy.  We made sure they got lots of exercise to burn off all that energy.

I have encountered tiny little dogs that may not be able to hurt you really badly but who have bad attitudes and are dangerous especially with small children.  

Currently we have three medium sized dogs.  They are either in our house, our fenced back yard, or on a leash...always.  Because that's what responsible dog servants do.

Everything is so damn all or nothing with you.

Simply - animal ownership requires taking responsibility for that animal in all ways.  The size and breed aren't the be all end all of how an animal (especially a dog) will behave.  

Put down the damn crack pipe and call animal control if there are dogs running loose in your neighborhood.

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NOBODY KNOWS THE PAIN OF BEING AN ABBA FAN ACCEPT ABBA FANS!

Or, maybe some dog owners are dicks, like parents who ignore their own failings with human kids.

It is never the animal's fault. I don't hate dogs. I do hate even human parents of human kids whom refuse to see their own bad leadership. 

My only point in my OP was that some dog owners feel self entitled like asshoes who speed in sports cares on highways as if it were their own personal road.

I always speed in my sports care...I pay taxes for that.

It is a bad delusional claim for any bread big or small, to assume because the dog is kind to that which it is familiar with will be kind to outsiders.  I have run into very small dogs who are big as perinanas and also have razor sharp teeth. Certainly the small yappy ones are not capable of killing you, but they still can bite. With big dogs it is different, regardless of breed. 

Their psychology is like any family unit at the core. That animal like a father or son or daughter or mother, is going to see the one who feeds them and loves them as family, just as if the humans were dogs they gave birth to.

My only objection in the OP is that far too many dog owners treat what should be a responsibility as self entitlement and blame others responding to their dog acting aggressively, not understanding that it is the human's fault, not the dogs, and those morons blame the critics and not their own bad habbits.

[arewethereyet]

Brian your OP regarding dog owners (and cat owners) who do not take good responsible care of their pets is valid.  For the safety of others and of the animal it is important that they be contained and trained.

But, as usual, you get hung up in the wrong things.  Your ranting about big dogs and certain breeds are your issues.  The first dog I owned as an adult was a male Golden Retriever.  A larger breed of dog.  One of the most mellow, well-behaved dogs I have ever had the pleasure of owning.  In your limited view he was a big dog and therefore dangerous.  He was dangerous if you had an issue with a dog that loved to be petted and talked to...never tugged on a leash...not one time did he growl.  His size had nothing to do with his temperament.

I just left my son's house.  I went to drop off a birthday cake to him.  His girlfriend has a female Pit named Leah.  She has had her about 10 years...about as long as her daughter is old.  The biggest danger I have ever witnessed out of Leah is that she is so damned excited to see me that she nearly knocks me over in her exuberance knowing that I will scratch her in that special spot and I may also have a couple treats in my pocket.  She is otherwise as gentle and loving as my Golden was.

We have owned a Doberman and German Shepherds.  The Doberman developed a brain tumor which caused aggression because of pressure on his brain and I had to have him put down - his aggression was not because of his breed.  The GSDs I have had were intimidating looking but were well-behaved and loving but high energy.  We made sure they got lots of exercise to burn off all that energy.

I have encountered tiny little dogs that may not be able to hurt you really badly but who have bad attitudes and are dangerous especially with small children.  

Currently we have three medium sized dogs.  They are either in our house, our fenced back yard, or on a leash...always.  Because that's what responsible dog servants do.

Everything is so damn all or nothing with you.

Simply - animal ownership requires taking responsibility for that animal in all ways.  The size and breed aren't the be all end all of how an animal (especially a dog) will behave.  

Put down the damn crack pipe and call animal control if there are dogs running loose in your neighborhood.

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I always speed in my sports care...I pay taxes for that.

It is a bad delusional claim for any bread big or small, to assume because the dog is kind to that which it is familiar with will be kind to outsiders.  I have run into very small dogs who are big as perinanas and also have razor sharp teeth. Certainly the small yappy ones are not capable of killing you, but they still can bite. With big dogs it is different, regardless of breed. 

Their psychology is like any family unit at the core. That animal like a father or son or daughter or mother, is going to see the one who feeds them and loves them as family, just as if the humans were dogs they gave birth to.

My only objection in the OP is that far too many dog owners treat what should be a responsibility as self entitlement and blame others responding to their dog acting aggressively, not understanding that it is the human's fault, not the dogs, and those morons blame the critics and not their own bad habbits.

WTAF?

If you are talking about Piranhas, they aren't big.  If you compare them to a guppy they are but they aren't big in the grand scheme of fish sizes.

Look it up jackass.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If I ever own a dog it will be a big dog.

I loathe yappy rats.

The thing I hate about yip-yip dogs is you never can find buns that fit them. You find those "funny costumes" that look like buns, but no actual buns.

I'm going to check the local Korean grocer.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Brian your OP regarding dog owners (and cat owners) who do not take good responsible care of their pets is valid.  For the safety of others and of the animal it is important that they be contained and trained.

But, as usual, you get hung up in the wrong things.  Your ranting about big dogs and certain breeds are your issues.  The first dog I owned as an adult was a male Golden Retriever.  A larger breed of dog.  One of the most mellow, well-behaved dogs I have ever had the pleasure of owning.  In your limited view he was a big dog and therefore dangerous.  He was dangerous if you had an issue with a dog that loved to be petted and talked to...never tugged on a leash...not one time did he growl.  His size had nothing to do with his temperament.

I just left my son's house.  I went to drop off a birthday cake to him.  His girlfriend has a female Pit named Leah.  She has had her about 10 years...about as long as her daughter is old.  The biggest danger I have ever witnessed out of Leah is that she is so damned excited to see me that she nearly knocks me over in her exuberance knowing that I will scratch her in that special spot and I may also have a couple treats in my pocket.  She is otherwise as gentle and loving as my Golden was.

We have owned a Doberman and German Shepherds.  The Doberman developed a brain tumor which caused aggression because of pressure on his brain and I had to have him put down - his aggression was not because of his breed.  The GSDs I have had were intimidating looking but were well-behaved and loving but high energy.  We made sure they got lots of exercise to burn off all that energy.

I have encountered tiny little dogs that may not be able to hurt you really badly but who have bad attitudes and are dangerous especially with small children.  

Currently we have three medium sized dogs.  They are either in our house, our fenced back yard, or on a leash...always.  Because that's what responsible dog servants do.

Everything is so damn all or nothing with you.

Simply - animal ownership requires taking responsibility for that animal in all ways.  The size and breed aren't the be all end all of how an animal (especially a dog) will behave.  

Put down the damn crack pipe and call animal control if there are dogs running loose in your neighborhood.

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I always speed in my sports care...I pay taxes for that.

It is a bad delusional claim for any bread big or small, to assume because the dog is kind to that which it is familiar with will be kind to outsiders.  I have run into very small dogs who are big as perinanas and also have razor sharp teeth. Certainly the small yappy ones are not capable of killing you, but they still can bite. With big dogs it is different, regardless of breed. 

Their psychology is like any family unit at the core. That animal like a father or son or daughter or mother, is going to see the one who feeds them and loves them as family, just as if the humans were dogs they gave birth to.

My only objection in the OP is that far too many dog owners treat what should be a responsibility as self entitlement and blame others responding to their dog acting aggressively, not understanding that it is the human's fault, not the dogs, and those morons blame the critics and not their own bad habbits.

So, what are you going to do about it?

Boru

[zebo-the-fat]

I own a German Shepard/Akita cross, a big strong dog, likes everyone but she is simply stupid. We have a large garden for her to run around in but she is never allowed out in public unless on a lead.



One thing I don't understand though, If we are out I have to pick up the crap or face a fine, this is ok, it's all part of owning a dog, but I live in a fairly rural area with a few horse riders about, why do they not have to pick up the horse crap? It must be a hundred times bigger!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I own a German Shepard/Akita cross, a big strong dog, likes everyone but she is simply stupid. We have a large garden for her to run around in but she is never allowed out in public unless on a lead.



One thing I don't understand though, If we are out I have to pick up the crap or face a fine, this is ok, it's all part of owning a dog, but I live in a fairly rural area with a few horse riders about, why do they not have to pick up the horse crap? It must be a hundred times bigger!

Whores owners have more political pull?

(Or did I read that wrong?)

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I own a German Shepard/Akita cross, a big strong dog, likes everyone but she is simply stupid. We have a large garden for her to run around in but she is never allowed out in public unless on a lead.



One thing I don't understand though, If we are out I have to pick up the crap or face a fine, this is ok, it's all part of owning a dog, but I live in a fairly rural area with a few horse riders about, why do they not have to pick up the horse crap? It must be a hundred times bigger!

You're missing the point, which is that Brian clearly lives in a post-apocalyptic wasteland with packs of vicious and probably mutated dogs roaming the countryside and preying on the weak and unwary.

Boru