Church is not essential

[onlinebiker]

I guess OLB’s question was harder than I thought.

Boru

No shit.

A simple "no" would have sufficed.

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No, it’s about political conventions. Try to keep up.

Boru

I took a nap.  I missed the U-turn in the thread.

Not to worry.

It doesn't actually go anywhere.

[Drich]

If god is real, he can be experienced anywhere at anytime. There does not need to be a special place for a theist to be able to experience god. In fact, church is merely a place of socialization, and nothing more.

church has a purpose, and that is for the protection and fellowship of believers. God is in church but as you said he is everywhere else as well. it is simpler easier to connect with God when there are others to help. but again God can be found on your own. just know God is not the only spiritual being looking for lost souls.

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If churching is not declared an essential service, how are we supposed to get to Heaven? 

I mean, come on, what are we supposed to do - go round bringing meds to shut-ins, or help out at a food bank?

Sound kinda commie, if you ask me.

Boru

where 2 people meet in the name of Christ is a church.

or did you all not know i have been dragging you to church daily for the last 8 years?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If god is real, he can be experienced anywhere at anytime. There does not need to be a special place for a theist to be able to experience god. In fact, church is merely a place of socialization, and nothing more.

church has a purpose, and that is for the protection and fellowship of believers. God is in church but as you said he is everywhere else as well. it is simpler easier to connect with God when there are others to help. but again God can be found on your own. just know God is not the only spiritual being looking for lost souls.

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If churching is not declared an essential service, how are we supposed to get to Heaven? 

I mean, come on, what are we supposed to do - go round bringing meds to shut-ins, or help out at a food bank?

Sound kinda commie, if you ask me.

Boru

where 2 people meet in the name of Christ is a church.

or did you all not know i have been dragging you to church daily for the last 8 years?

Your effort has been a failure of epic proportions.

Boru

[Drich]

If god is real, he can be experienced anywhere at anytime. There does not need to be a special place for a theist to be able to experience god. In fact, church is merely a place of socialization, and nothing more.

Church is the primary source of indoctrination, especially for the young. Of course it's essential.

actually the class room is. this is the proof:
https://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501378673...exit-polls

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-...y-educated
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/02/upsho...trump.html

NPR, The BBC and NYTimes.

Said trump won because the "poorly educated" got out and voted.

poorly educated... think what that word means for a moment. now think of the definition for indoctrination:
in·doc·tri·na·tion
/inˌdäktrəˈnāSHən/
[/url]Learn to pronounce
[url=https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS743US744&sxsrf=ALeKk01MMw9k5lj2MN8LERXfB4gCuzAqYA:1589901250845&q=how+to+pronounce+indoctrination&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMIfcTowC3w8sc9YSnzSWtOXmM05OINKMrPK81LzkwsyczPE5LiYglJLcoVEpIS4OLLzEvJTy4pyswDy1mxKDGl5vEsYpXPyC9XKMlXKADqzAdqTVVAVQgAMIwoYGcAAAA&pron_lang=en&pron_country=us&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj56aLam8DpAhWRiOAKHaS6BK0Q3eEDMAB6BAgJEAg]
noun

1. the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.
   "I would never subject children to religious indoctrination"
   • ARCHAIC
     teaching; instruction.
     

now think back to all the negitive ads and campaign mud slinging. they used all the key hate words. you know the words that 'educated people are taught to be 'triggered by'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvbMLti5S3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbCTfeLmneI

words like racists, misogynist, xenophobe, and the list doesn't stop there think of all the fake news all of it combined should have triggered the nation to vote the other way. but what they are saying is not enough people who voted for trump were indoctrinated enough to be triggered/turn off all reason and thought and simply hate.

all the bigotry and hate this country was known for in the past is still here it's just been disciplined to be focuses to those trigger words, so educated people can get their evil hate on and not feel immoral doing it. That is the lie of education, because who ever has the power to mass media identify an individual as those triggers then the educated should stop thinking and hate..

Thankfully we have not all been indoctrinated yet. Some of us can and still do think for ourselves.

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What is really fucking frightening is that Trump and the GOP are still insisting on the RNC convention which will host 50,000 people. They go, then they take it home and spread it even more.

this is the real reason the 'dims' want to keep the country shut down. so biden can stay hidden and not feel like he must do rallies like trump

[brewer]

Church is the primary source of indoctrination, especially for the young. Of course it's essential.

actually the class room is. this is the proof:
https://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501378673...exit-polls

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-...y-educated
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/02/upsho...trump.html

NPR, The BBC and NYTimes.

Said trump won because the "poorly educated" got out and voted.

poorly educated... think what that word means for a moment. now think of the definition for indoctrination:
in·doc·tri·na·tion
/inˌdäktrəˈnāSHən/
[/url]Learn to pronounce
[url=https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS743US744&sxsrf=ALeKk01MMw9k5lj2MN8LERXfB4gCuzAqYA:1589901250845&q=how+to+pronounce+indoctrination&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMIfcTowC3w8sc9YSnzSWtOXmM05OINKMrPK81LzkwsyczPE5LiYglJLcoVEpIS4OLLzEvJTy4pyswDy1mxKDGl5vEsYpXPyC9XKMlXKADqzAdqTVVAVQgAMIwoYGcAAAA&pron_lang=en&pron_country=us&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj56aLam8DpAhWRiOAKHaS6BK0Q3eEDMAB6BAgJEAg]
noun

1. the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.
   "I would never subject children to religious indoctrination"
   • ARCHAIC
     teaching; instruction.
     

now think back to all the negitive ads and campaign mud slinging. they used all the key hate words. you know the words that 'educated people are taught to be 'triggered by'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvbMLti5S3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbCTfeLmneI

words like racists, misogynist, xenophobe, and the list doesn't stop there think of all the fake news all of it combined should have triggered the nation to vote the other way. but what they are saying is not enough people who voted for trump were indoctrinated enough to be triggered/turn off all reason and thought and simply hate.

all the bigotry and hate this country was known for in the past is still here it's just been disciplined to be focuses to those trigger words, so educated people can get their evil hate on and not feel immoral doing it. That is the lie of education, because who ever has the power to mass media identify an individual as those triggers then the educated should stop thinking and hate..

Thankfully we have not all been indoctrinated yet. Some of us can and still do think for ourselves.

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What the fuck does this ^^^ have to do with religious indoctrination?

Diversion attempt fails.

[arewethereyet]

Church is the primary source of indoctrination, especially for the young. Of course it's essential.

...

Said trump won because the "poorly educated" got out and voted.

poorly educated... think what that word means for a moment. now think of the definition for indoctrination:
in·doc·tri·na·tion
/inˌdäktrəˈnāSHən/
[/url]Learn to pronounce
[url=https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS743US744&sxsrf=ALeKk01MMw9k5lj2MN8LERXfB4gCuzAqYA:1589901250845&q=how+to+pronounce+indoctrination&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMIfcTowC3w8sc9YSnzSWtOXmM05OINKMrPK81LzkwsyczPE5LiYglJLcoVEpIS4OLLzEvJTy4pyswDy1mxKDGl5vEsYpXPyC9XKMlXKADqzAdqTVVAVQgAMIwoYGcAAAA&pron_lang=en&pron_country=us&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj56aLam8DpAhWRiOAKHaS6BK0Q3eEDMAB6BAgJEAg]
noun

1. the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.
   "I would never subject children to religious indoctrination"
   • ARCHAIC
     teaching; instruction.
     

Thankfully we have not all been indoctrinated yet. Some of us can and still do think for ourselves.

...

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It can't be both ways.   You either accept a belief uncritically, meaning you just accept it and put no thought into it or you think for yourself.

You have to pick a side even though I know being on both sides helps cover your ass.

[HappySkeptic]

I go to a church regularly. It now has virtual services and a virtual coffee hour. It works quite well.

It doesn't make sense for them to re-open. Many church members are at high-risk of death from COVID. Singing in church or talking in coffee-hour are extremely high-risk activities.

You could ban all singing, have people wear masks, and cancel the coffee-hour. If the church is Christian (mine isn't) and does communion, they could have individual cups. That would probably make is reasonably safe. But it would be a worse experience than the virtual service and coffee-hour we have now.

Trump demanding churches be open is political demagoguery. The Republicans have been trying to brand themselves as the Christian Party, and the Democrats as the "Muslim and Atheist Party". Obviously any Democratic governor that doesn't want churches to open must "hate Christians".

My opinion is that any church that opens, without major restrictions on what goes on in the services, should be held criminally libel if they kill their members.

[no one]

I'd say you've been misinformed. This "virus", took its toll on the magical sky kingdom's production line. god is in need of a loan.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The Catlicker churches in this area are holding mass this Sunday. Evidently the God that didn't prevent this pandemic will protect GOOD CATHOLICS from this pandemic.

[Godscreated]

If god is real, he can be experienced anywhere at anytime. There does not need to be a special place for a theist to be able to experience god. In fact, church is merely a place of socialization, and nothing more.

 God is real. You're right he can be experienced anywhere at any time, again you're right Christians need no special place to experience Him. You're completely wrong with your last sentence, first it's not a fact it's only a place of socialization, though we socialize while attending services, second it's much more it is a place where those who want to know and learn about God can and do, we also eat lunches sometimes but never before thanking God for the food He blessed us with. Yes we communicate with Him also. Your idea of services not being essential falls on it's face, and besides those few things, the saved people are the church so to have church we must gather together.

GC