This is not your ordinary Arnold Palmer Ice T.

[Ranjr]

In 1998, folk festival favorites The Gourds covered Snoop Dogg.  That became a thing.

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Yea, but there is still to this day, a deep hypocrisy between when white artists sing about sex and violence, and when black artists sing about the same topics.

FYI, my best friend John, is a huge country fan, pretty sure he is going to be 100% aware of the Johnny Cash song you mentioned. I'll pass it by him tomorrow.

If he's into the Tulsa music scene, he also knows how huge J.J. Cale was to more highly acclaimed musicians.

[Brian37]

I am posting this post here because it is related to Ice T. 

[chimp3]

I like Body Count, Red Beer, and Arnold Palmer Ice Tea. I'm weird that way. Having a hard time finding Campari in Kentucky. In the mood for a Negroni!

[no one]

How many black artists sing about sex and violence?

Surely you're not that high that you consider crap or shit hop to be singing.

[Brian37]

How many black artists sing about sex and violence?

Surely you're not that high that you consider crap or shit hop to be singing.

Gee not like Metallica didn't have an album "Kill Em All" and a song called "Seek And Destroy"

Not like Eric Clapton had a song with lyrics, "I shot the sheriff".

Not like Motley Crew had a song called, "Girls Girls Girls".

Not like Warrant had a song called, " Cherry Pie", fyi "cherry" refers to the vagina. Not used much as a term these days, but that is how "cherry" started out referring to sexy women. 

Did you even bother to read the lyrics? You may not like the genre, I get that. But that has nothing to do with the POSITIVE message he was conveying in "No Lives Matter".

The song is about how basically those with money are dividing the races and classes, and if we all stick together we can defeat them.

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Metallica, "Seek And Destroy"....... A couple lines from that song, "Running, on our way hiding, you'll be dying, a thousand deaths."

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A  couple of lines from "No Lives Matter'

"We're all on the same side"

And "They prosper off of the divide".


 Ice T is simply saying while blacks are still hurt worse by economics and the justice system on average, he wants everyone to fight together. When he says "No lives Matter" he is pointing out that the top 1% doesn't widely care enough even about poor rural and rust belt whites.

[no one]

You COMPLETELY missed the point!

[Rhizomorph13]

I like Body Count, Red Beer, and Arnold Palmer Ice Tea. I'm weird that way. Having a hard time finding Campari in Kentucky. In the mood for a Negroni!

Let me just take this moment to express complete revulsion at the taste of Campari. I think they brew that shit with actual earwax! I've tried Negronis and then any modification to make it taste even something approaching drinkable. No dice, Campari is so aweful... to me. I like vegemite a lot so I guess I could understand someone with different taste liking Campari but to me, it is so bitter and terrible.

[Brian37]

You COMPLETELY missed the point!

What point? Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you just imply that that genre of music sings about nothing but sex and violence? Am I wrong in pointing out that Rock and Metal have had the same themes as well?

If you want to call any type of music crap, that doesn't mean it is crap, it merely means you are not into it. Ice T didn't get to the level he has by sucking. 

I am not into rap myself. And "No Lives Matter" is one of the few I like. He mixed rap with metal, which I do like, and he had a positive message in that song.

[no one]

No, you are wrong. It has nothing to do with the message of sex, hate, or violence.

rappers, do not sing!

trump has seemed to rise to a level that he has, and he completely sucks!

[Brian37]

No, you are wrong. It has nothing to do with the message of sex, hate, or violence.

rappers, do not sing!

trump has seemed to rise to a level that he has, and he completely sucks!

And, rappers wrap, so, it is still a song. 

Music constitutes any song, whether your a singing or talking. Instruments are still involved. Drums, bass guitar, lead guitar, keyboard, synthetic, piano, sax, computer sampling, ect ect ect.

Don't equate an asshole bigot like Trump to Ice T.  Again, if you want to say, "It isn't my cup of tea" I get it. But no, Ice T has talent as far as music. Nobody is arguing he should run for office. 


All I am hearing is that you don't like Ice T. Lots of people don't like ABBA either, but who is suggesting we elect Ice Tea to President or members of ABBA to President? NOBODY.

Humans are good at certain things and not good at other things. No, I would not elect Agnetha Faltskog as president, or Ice T. But we are talking about two different contexts. 

I don't trust Trump to clean out my cat's litter box. But if we are talking about music and not politics, why would, or should you have a problem with anyone liking Ice T or ABBA or Metalica or Rush or Run DMC, or Tone Loc, or the Beach Boys, or anything?

All you can say is you don't like Ice T.

My late mother hated all the music I grew up with mostly. But we did occasionally find songs we both liked. "My Life" by Billy Joel, "Sunday Girl" by Blondie, she even once sang "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" by Pat Benatar in a long car ride with me. Mind you she was born in 1933 and for her to do that, impressed the fuck out of me. 

And I of course was not into her age of music, I was younger of course. But even I could tolerate and even like some of the stuff she liked. 

Again, when you say Ice T sucks, all you are saying is you are not into his music. And nobody suggested we elect him President in any case.