The Struggle to do Good

[brokenreflector]

So, what you're saying is, you'd rather be fucked by the biggest dick in existence?

Don't you get sick of following the evil in your mind?

[chimp3]

"I used to beat off and felt quilty". Therefore, God!

If the guilt of beating off doesn't come from nature, societal pressures, or upbringing, then it would have to come from something metaphysical.

Yes! There, there! You poor, stifled, guilt addled twit! Don't worry! It's OK!

[arewethereyet]

I used to view pornography, but I stopped because of God's prompting, and I believe this prompting, pull, or urge can be used as evidence for God's existence. I didn't grow up in a Christian home. I didn't even grow up in a religious home. And I've grown up during a time where pornography is no longer seen as a taboo. So, where did this very powerful urge to not view pornography come from? I've always believed in God, but this urge didn't come in the form of, "Do not look at this or you're going to Hell," or "Do not look at this because God says so!" This urge was voiceless, foundational, and powerful.

In an attempt to uncover the source of this urge, I remember asking myself various questions like if two consenting adults choose to have sex on camera and purposely disseminate the footage to the public, then in what way am I wronging anyone by viewing the footage in the privacy of my own home? Or perhaps an even better example would be an unmarried woman who photographs herself nude, and then purposely disseminates the photo to the public. Why am I being urged to not look at such material?

If societal pressures or my upbringing did not produce this urge, then what or who produced it? If I were an atheist, then I suppose my next step would be to look at nature itself or more specifically, evolution. But the urge doesn't seem to come from there either, because how would it benefit the survival of the species for its members to not gaze upon unmarried naked women? On the contrary, if evolution were truly unguided and chiefly about increasing the survivability of each species, then I'd expect to have a powerful urge to look at naked unmarried women without any inner conflict.

If upbringing, society, or nature isn't producing this urge, then is this not a signpost to God? More specifically, to the Holy Spirit? I believe so.

With that being said, if you feel this prompting to do good, then it is from God and you should listen. He's trying to guide you to Him.

So, god tapped you on the shoulder to urge you to stop having urges?  

Very compelling story.

Many will be convinced.

[no one]

this guy:
So, what you're saying is, you'd rather be fucked by the biggest dick in existence?

defectiveunit:
Don't you get sick of following the evil in your mind?

Do you ever get sick of the stupid that has seduced your inadequate brainship captain?

[brokenreflector]

If the guilt of beating off doesn't come from nature, societal pressures, or upbringing, then it would have to come from something metaphysical.

Yes! There, there! You poor, stifled, guilt addled twit! Don't worry! It's OK!

What's with the personal insults?

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this guy:
So, what you're saying is, you'd rather be fucked by the biggest dick in existence?

defectiveunit:
Don't you get sick of following the evil in your mind?

Do you ever get sick of the stupid that has seduced your inadequate brainship captain?

Not an argument.

Atheism is in poor shape these days.

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I used to view pornography, but I stopped because of God's prompting, and I believe this prompting, pull, or urge can be used as evidence for God's existence. I didn't grow up in a Christian home. I didn't even grow up in a religious home. And I've grown up during a time where pornography is no longer seen as a taboo. So, where did this very powerful urge to not view pornography come from? I've always believed in God, but this urge didn't come in the form of, "Do not look at this or you're going to Hell," or "Do not look at this because God says so!" This urge was voiceless, foundational, and powerful.

In an attempt to uncover the source of this urge, I remember asking myself various questions like if two consenting adults choose to have sex on camera and purposely disseminate the footage to the public, then in what way am I wronging anyone by viewing the footage in the privacy of my own home? Or perhaps an even better example would be an unmarried woman who photographs herself nude, and then purposely disseminates the photo to the public. Why am I being urged to not look at such material?

If societal pressures or my upbringing did not produce this urge, then what or who produced it? If I were an atheist, then I suppose my next step would be to look at nature itself or more specifically, evolution. But the urge doesn't seem to come from there either, because how would it benefit the survival of the species for its members to not gaze upon unmarried naked women? On the contrary, if evolution were truly unguided and chiefly about increasing the survivability of each species, then I'd expect to have a powerful urge to look at naked unmarried women without any inner conflict.

If upbringing, society, or nature isn't producing this urge, then is this not a signpost to God? More specifically, to the Holy Spirit? I believe so.

With that being said, if you feel this prompting to do good, then it is from God and you should listen. He's trying to guide you to Him.

So, god tapped you on the shoulder to urge you to stop having urges?  

Very compelling story.

Many will be convinced.

Are you purposely trying to mislead people or do you have reading comprehension issues?

[no one]

You know lead based paint chips aren't for snacking, right?

[Shuffle]

I used to view pornography, but I stopped because of God's prompting, and I believe this prompting, pull, or urge can be used as evidence for God's existence. I didn't grow up in a Christian home. I didn't even grow up in a religious home. And I've grown up during a time where pornography is no longer seen as a taboo. So, where did this very powerful urge to not view pornography come from? I've always believed in God, but this urge didn't come in the form of, "Do not look at this or you're going to Hell," or "Do not look at this because God says so!" This urge was voiceless, foundational, and powerful.

In an attempt to uncover the source of this urge, I remember asking myself various questions like if two consenting adults choose to have sex on camera and purposely disseminate the footage to the public, then in what way am I wronging anyone by viewing the footage in the privacy of my own home? Or perhaps an even better example would be an unmarried woman who photographs herself nude, and then purposely disseminates the photo to the public. Why am I being urged to not look at such material?

If societal pressures or my upbringing did not produce this urge, then what or who produced it? If I were an atheist, then I suppose my next step would be to look at nature itself or more specifically, evolution. But the urge doesn't seem to come from there either, because how would it benefit the survival of the species for its members to not gaze upon unmarried naked women? On the contrary, if evolution were truly unguided and chiefly about increasing the survivability of each species, then I'd expect to have a powerful urge to look at naked unmarried women without any inner conflict.

If upbringing, society, or nature isn't producing this urge, then is this not a signpost to God? More specifically, to the Holy Spirit? I believe so.

With that being said, if you feel this prompting to do good, then it is from God and you should listen. He's trying to guide you to Him.

This is called an argument from ignorance. You are ignorant of what caused you to stop, so you assume that it must be God. That is not how these things work. If you don't know what caused you to stop, then you don't know. You are basically saying, "I have no explanation for what caused me to stop, so God is my explanation." What? Investigate, research, but don't throw your hands up and shout God. Don't use God as an object to fill in gaps of your knowledge.

[chimp3]

Yes! There, there! You poor, stifled, guilt addled twit! Don't worry! It's OK!

What's with the personal insults?

Nothing! I did not mean to insult. There is nothing wrong with self pleasure! Keep on!

[brokenreflector]

This is called an argument from ignorance. You are ignorant of what caused you to stop, so you assume that it must be God. That is not how these things work. If you don't know what caused you to stop, then you don't know. You are basically saying, "I have no explanation for what caused me to stop, so God is my explanation." What? Investigate, research, but don't throw your hands up and shout God. Don't use God as an object to fill in gaps of your knowledge.

No. And what you've done here is strawman my argument. That's not good practice by the way. It's better to steelman somebody's argument before responding to it. That's much more effective and persuasive.

What I've actually done is list all of the possible causes of this urge: nature, societal pressures, upbringing, etc.; and if the origin of this urge isn't any of these things, particularly not from nature, then the origin is by definition transcendental or metaphysical.

Stop mislabeling things as logical fallacies.

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What's with the personal insults?

Nothing! I did not mean to insult. There is nothing wrong with self pleasure! Keep on!

Why are you personally insulting me though? Are you angry?

[arewethereyet]

Brokenrecord is broken.

We've heard this all before.