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John Oliver on riots and looting.
#11
RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
I truly wish people could learn the difference between a protest and a riot.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
(June 8, 2020 at 12:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Watch this episode, and he nails it. Trevor Noah also made the same point earlier this week on "social contract". It is something white people don't get. It isn't enough to parade around images of kumbia between blacks and police in the news. And it isn't enough for blacks to say, "don't burn down your own neighborhoods."  The truth is this rinse and repeat rhetoric hasn't changed the systemic inequality that still exists today. What we see today is long term, and  not only about policing. 

My late mother often pointed to her admiration of Martin Luther King Jr, but didn't understand Malcolm X. What white people miss between them, is that even Martin Luther King often said of Malcolm, while he himself did not use Malcolm's tactics he understood the reaction. White people need to stop being so judgemental in socai unrest when others are abused. Plymouth Rock landed on black people and equality will never happen until white people stop harping the old line of "peaceful protest" until they are willing to stop the sparks that lead to unrest. That is the point Trever and Oliver both are making.

One line Oliver used struck me as very profound about white ignorance in the following clip, and he was criticising media in general, "If you use the word Macys more than you do "Breonna Taylor" (AN EMT murdered by cops because of a no knock warrant  gettng the wrong house). Meaning Macy's  can handle the loss, an innocent black EMT wont get her life back. 





Here is the lady whom he has in his clip.




As much as I admire and respect John Oliver, I don't need him to tell me how or what to think about this or about anything else.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
(June 8, 2020 at 6:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I truly wish people could learn the difference between a protest and a riot.

Boru

I truly wish people would understand the difference between what sparks a a fire and what can prevent a fire.

It does no good to complain after the spark.

Kimberly like most blacks over the past 50 years are NOT advocating riots or looting. She doesn't want it anymore than you or I do.

It is not up to blacks in America to not riot or loot. Blacks will even say they don't want it. 

It is up to WHITES to recognize the institutionalized racism and inequality. 

Kimberly was not saying she didn't wan't law and order. SHE DOES. What she was saying is exactly like a one on one marriage. If you don't listen or hear me, how can you expect me to give a fuck? WHITE PEOPLE need to face this history, and that is all she is arguing. She hates looting and violence like any sane person should. All she is sayinng is nobody should be surprised when you abuse a group of people like that.. Thus her last line, "Be happy we only want equality and not revenge."
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
(June 8, 2020 at 6:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 8, 2020 at 6:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I truly wish people could learn the difference between a protest and a riot.

Boru

I truly wish people would understand the difference between what sparks a a fire and what can prevent a fire.

It does no good to complain after the spark.

Kimberly like most blacks over the past 50 years are NOT advocating riots or looting. She doesn't want it anymore than you or I do.

It is not up to blacks in America to not riot or loot. Blacks will even say they don't want it. 

It is up to WHITES to recognize the institutionalized racism and inequality. 

Kimberly was not saying she didn't wan't law and order. SHE DOES. What she was saying is exactly like a one on one marriage. If you don't listen or hear me, how can you expect me to give a fuck? WHITE PEOPLE need to face this history, and that is all she is arguing. She hates looting and violence like any sane person should. All she is sayinng is nobody should be surprised when you abuse a group of people like that.. Thus her last line, "Be happy we only want equality and not revenge."

Thank you for ‘splainin it, Lucy.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
(June 8, 2020 at 7:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 8, 2020 at 6:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I truly wish people would understand the difference between what sparks a a fire and what can prevent a fire.

It does no good to complain after the spark.

Kimberly like most blacks over the past 50 years are NOT advocating riots or looting. She doesn't want it anymore than you or I do.

It is not up to blacks in America to not riot or loot. Blacks will even say they don't want it. 

It is up to WHITES to recognize the institutionalized racism and inequality. 

Kimberly was not saying she didn't wan't law and order. SHE DOES. What she was saying is exactly like a one on one marriage. If you don't listen or hear me, how can you expect me to give a fuck? WHITE PEOPLE need to face this history, and that is all she is arguing. She hates looting and violence like any sane person should. All she is sayinng is nobody should be surprised when you abuse a group of people like that.. Thus her last line, "Be happy we only want equality and not revenge."

Thank you for ‘splainin it, Lucy.

Boru

No problem Ricky.

I was busy on my chocolate debacle.
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
(June 8, 2020 at 7:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 8, 2020 at 7:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Thank you for ‘splainin it, Lucy.

Boru

No problem Ricky.

I was busy on my chocolate debacle.

Can we get you on Mastermind? ‘Next contestant, Brian James. Special subject, the bleeding obvious.’

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
(June 8, 2020 at 4:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 8, 2020 at 1:31 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I assume you meant to use this word:

Kumbaya
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Come By Here", transcribed by J. Cutting from the singing of H. Wylie, 1926
"Kum ba yah" ("Come by Here") is an African American spiritual of disputed origin, but known to be sung in the Gullah culture of the islands off South Carolina and Georgia, with ties to enslaved West Africans. The song is thought to have spread from the islands to other Southern states and the North, as well as other places in the world. The first known recording, of someone known only as H. Wylie, who sang in the Gullah dialect, was recorded by folk enthusiast Robert Winslow Gordon in 1926. It later became a standard campfire song in scouting and summer camps and enjoyed broader popularity during the folk revival of the 1950s and 1960s.
The song was originally an appeal to God to come and help those in need.[1]

Not being sarcastic at all, being dead serious, and I mean it, thank you for the correction. And the word history too. But I seriously suck at spelling.

Obviously, you were never a Girl Scout circa 60s-70s...or a hippie in the 70s.
 “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” ~Albert Einstein                                                 
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(June 8, 2020 at 5:37 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Riots solve everything...

That's why Detroit is such a paradise.....

And Watts - heaven on Earth...



Jerkoff

Riots arent meant to solve anything, they are intended to bring attention to an issue. The fact that people are more concerned with the riots ending instead of the police brutality ending is the real problem.
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
(June 9, 2020 at 4:33 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:
(June 8, 2020 at 5:37 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Riots solve everything...

That's why Detroit is such a paradise.....

And Watts - heaven on Earth...



Jerkoff

Riots arent meant to solve anything, they are intended to bring attention to an issue. The fact that people are more concerned with the riots ending instead of the police brutality ending is the real problem.

Just read someone who is upset that Trump is getting blamed for the civil unrest in the US. Goes on to say that ‘No one seems to care that Obama has blood on his hands for the Hamburg G20 riots!’

The Hamburg riots were in July of 2017.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: John Oliver on riots and looting.
Want proof that protesting does squat?


....


How many riots did the NRA start?



You can cite a few cases where armed citizens show up in state capitols - but for the most part those did not get the laws made as the NRA sees fit.


They did it - and will continue to do it - by raising large ammounts of money and hiring lawyers and lobbyists to work within the system.

It's hard work. It takes time. But a small minority gets what it wants. 

Here in Michigan we can now own and hunt with an AR15 with a silencer and carry.a concealed AK pistol if we like.

We didn't get that by carrying signs and chanting slogans.....


But hey - you just go have your fun
...
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