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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 3:22 pm
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Like the people who get paid to execute incarcerated killers.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 3:28 pm
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 3:37 pm
Shouldn't take much yammering on about philosophy to notice that there would be that much less killing in the world if executioners refused to do the job they worked hard to get. It's a volunteer gig.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 3:42 pm
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 3:44 pm
People who support capital punishment should look up a list of countries that still practice it. See what kind of company you keep.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 3:45 pm
It makes it easier for me to jump into the middle of any convo. 
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 4:22 pm
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(June 11, 2020 at 3:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: People who support capital punishment should look up a list of countries that still practice it. See what kind of company you keep.
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I'm fully aware of the countries that still have capital punishment.
Some have public executions, which I don't support.
Some have brutal forms of execution, which I don't support.
Some kill criminals who commit crimes that I don't agree should be punishable by death.
Some execute without full due process.
None of that I agree with.
As I stated, if there's absolutely no doubt, I think some crimes, and some degree of crimes, should be punishable with a quick removal from the planet.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 4:31 pm
(June 11, 2020 at 12:45 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: There are some crimes that feel as though the death penaly would be fitting, but, and it's a big but, what if you later find out that you killed the wrong person?
If you wrongly put someone in prison you can pay out compensation (probably not enough to restore what they have lost, but at least you can make the effort) but if the person is dead, all you can do is say "oops... sorry about that!"
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 5:38 pm
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(June 11, 2020 at 4:22 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Some have public executions, which I don't support. Is the idea here that it's made better by hiding it from public view? I think that it's only made easier to swallow. The people who see executions and the people who perform them generally regret having ever seen just the one.
The others, a thousand times yes. There are all sorts of ways that the process can go south, even further south, that is...but that does seem to lead right into the next bit.
Quote:As I stated, if there's absolutely no doubt, I think some crimes, and some degree of crimes, should be punishable with a quick removal from the planet.
Can't be done. The business of execution can't be done swiftly and justly. No amount of certainty internally held or even legally pronounced removes the states responsibility to provide due process.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 11, 2020 at 5:42 pm
(June 11, 2020 at 4:22 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (June 11, 2020 at 3:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: People who support capital punishment should look up a list of countries that still practice it. See what kind of company you keep.
Boru
I'm fully aware of the countries that still have capital punishment.
Some have public executions, which I don't support.
Some have brutal forms of execution, which I don't support.
Some kill criminals who commit crimes that I don't agree should be punishable by death.
Some execute without full due process.
None of that I agree with.
As I stated, if there's absolutely no doubt, I think some crimes, and some degree of crimes, should be punishable with a quick removal from the planet.
I understand what you’re saying and I appreciate that you have a much more nuanced view of this issue than a lot of people.
But as more and more nations abolish the death penalty (while some keep it on the books but opt not to use it), I simply feel it’s time to consign it to the ash can of history.
Agree to disagree, I suppose.
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