Changing the banner to promote BLM

[Abaddon_ire]

Wrong on every count. See my sig RE your question. The hell with my comfy little life? Go back to your phone and carry on convincing confused and misled children that they need to transition to the opposite sex in order to be happy. In other words - fuck you.

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Racist AND transphobic. What a combination. 

Any other random bigotry you care to add to your resume?

[arewethereyet]

Wrong on every count. See my sig RE your question. The hell with my comfy little life? Go back to your phone and carry on convincing confused and misled children that they need to transition to the opposite sex in order to be happy. In other words - fuck you.

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Racist AND transphobic. What a combination. 

Any other random bigotry you care to add to your resume?

You saw that too.  I read it several times thinking that I read something wrong.  

Over time this sort of thing is revealed.  I will say I didn't see it coming but am not surprised.

[Little lunch]

Wrong on every count. See my sig RE your question. The hell with my comfy little life? Go back to your phone and carry on convincing confused and misled children that they need to transition to the opposite sex in order to be happy. In other words - fuck you.

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Racist AND transphobic. What a combination. 

Any other random bigotry you care to add to your resume?

In what way was his answer racist or transphobic?

[Abaddon_ire]

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Racist AND transphobic. What a combination. 

Any other random bigotry you care to add to your resume?

In what way was his answer racist or transphobic?

The racism was established earlier.

The transphobia? Read the highlited.

Wrong on every count. See my sig RE your question. The hell with my comfy little life? Go back to your phone and carry on convincing confused and misled children that they need to transition to the opposite sex in order to be happy. In other words - fuck you.

Nothing transphobic there, hmmm? Really think so?

Look carefully at the words too. Those are rather oddly specific insults.

The facts of the matter are that my eldest is trans, and that journey has led me to volunteer on support lines for trans kids and their families.

Would you like me to apologise for that? Do you really think we are trained  to convince confused and misled children that transition is the solution to all their woes?

The fuck we are. We are explicitly trained NOT to do that.

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Racist AND transphobic. What a combination. 

Any other random bigotry you care to add to your resume?

You saw that too.  I read it several times thinking that I read something wrong.  

Over time this sort of thing is revealed.  I will say I didn't see it coming but am not surprised.

Alas, I see it all too often.

[GrandizerII]

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Racist AND transphobic. What a combination. 

Any other random bigotry you care to add to your resume?

In what way was his answer racist or transphobic?

I mean, his posts on matters of politics and social justice generally reek of a racist mindset, and a typical example of how transphobia can be expressed was right in the bit you quoted ...

[The Architect Of Fate]

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Racist AND transphobic. What a combination. 

Any other random bigotry you care to add to your resume?

In what way was his answer racist or transphobic?

Go back to your phone and carry on convincing confused and misled children that they need to transition to the opposite sex in order to be happy. In other words - fuck you.

Referring to trans people as "confused " as if they don't really know who they are thus delegitimizing their identity isn't transphobic and discouraging them from the only treatment we know that helps dysphoric trans people and then lying that children are being transitioned when they are not .

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Criminal record of George Floyd - 10 months for armed robbery, 8 months for cocaine, 10 months for cocaine, 10 months for cocaine, 5 years for armed home invasion including pressing his pistol to the pregnant resident's stomach, then his trying to pass off a fake bill while high on Fentanyl and crystal meth - the offence which lead to his death. To say he was no saint would be an understatement. I'm not saying he deserved death, but I do not feel it would be appropriate to lionise such an individual in any way or denote them a martyr either.

From 8 mins for the criminal record:

George Floyd criminal record has fuck all to do with anything . The guy was killed unjustly that alone is why anyone should stand with him he doesn't need to freaking saint for that .And Cadence Owens are you for fucking real ? 

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And refused to return the smokes when the cashier asked. And resisted arrest, refusing to get into the back of a police car, and the officer's were incapable of forcing him into the car due to his being very big and strong, despite trying to talk him down etc for a long time, so tried to pacify him with the (ridiculous but authorised) neck-kneeling. you missed that part out rev.

George Floyd wasn't resisting in anyway and no there was no excuse for the cop doing that 

If I were a cop in the US I'd be...on edge, what with the number of firearms in civilian hands, but yes, police training fail is evident.

Well that's bullshit 

My bold: I guess that's the real crux of the issue. Whether that's a uniform fact or it just "seems" that way..well, I read that the killers through suffocation of white Tony Timpa (who also repeatedly said "I can'y breathe") didn't even lose their jobs so.....

No it's a fact and trotting out Tony Timpa does not make your case .

Perhaps his career-criminal jailbird history is fundamental as to why he died - in that he couldn't bear the thought of going back to prison YET AGAIN and that's why he resisted arrest so vehemently.

His criminal record is moot and he wasn't resisting and even if he was that's not an excuse to kill him

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For a good counter to Candace the grifter (i think Hitler was okay. I don't understand what people mean when they call me an uncle tom ) Owens moronic blather and attempts to sound educated 

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I support equality and civil rights fully, yet appose the fiction that society is systematically racist. I'm a Brit, but we have crime music here too: gangster rap, grime, drill...take your pick, and that's the tip of the iceberg as to why black people might commit more crime (FUCK YOU WHITE AMERICA due to slavery - hint). Fuck me this is exhausting....grow a brain peeps...please.

ETA you know full well my posts in the other, protected banner thread were deleted.

More white kids listen to rap and rap is mass produced for white kids, And yes black do commit more crimes and there are socio economic reasons for that , And IT isn't fuck you white america .

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Systemic racism is illegal in america, just as it is in the UK. The fact BLM et al have not been able to identify and call out these, apparently invisible, systemic racist structures which are active in the modern 2020 world screams that its only proponents are...well, mistaken in thinking they exist

Illegal doesn't doesn't happen nor is systematic racism explicit and can be implicit and they do exist and they have identified them   

Hysterical white mono-culture middle class with no black friends or lovers who worry they themselves are a little racist due to unfamiliarity and fear of the "different" (ie - black people) doing the "the lady doth protest too much, methinks" dance, and black people revelling in "poor, persecuted me" victim mentality making up the majority of their number, by my reckoning.

Well this is all bullshit 

Basically, BLM is sad as fuck. 2c 50c. 

Nope

I'm not sure, personally, that I'll be able to continue here if this new banner comes to pass due to...er...embarrassment at frequenting a forum with such a stupid banner, especially when there are other, very REAL and MASSIVE problems facing the world, which would be apparently not, in the same way, deserving of being featured on the banner - global warming :cough cough

Good don't let the door hit you on the way out

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The fact it is illegal SCREAMS FROM THE RAFTERS that racism is WRONG and that society CONDEMNS it.

The fact it's illegal doesn't prove it doesn't exist ans when it's exposed that also doesn't mean it doesn't exist

 To say that's gotta stand for something is surely a prodigious understatement. Also, if racism is found out, people get arrested and thrown in prison etc. Ergo - prove systematic racism and heads roll. The fact that ain't happening screams that systematic racism ain't real.

Just because when racism is exposed and arrests are made does not prove it doesn't exist . You don't seem to know what systematic racism even is , And yes it's very real .

I will just quickly repeat RE George Floyd's despicable killing - there is NO evidence of racism in it, and white people (namely Tony Timpa) have been killed in virtually identical if not even more despicable circumstances at the hands of US police. 

Yes there is and again trotting out Tony Timpa does not make your case

RE BLM, there's this video I'm watching...basically, BLM is not only a nebulous global protest movement, rather at core a firm organisation with founders and a heap of doctrine, much of which is plain batshit insanity it would seem, such as hating on white people and wishing to defund the police altogether. From 7 mins for that stuff, haven't finished it yet.

So a bunch of your opinions

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s a proportion of arrests/crime/incarceration is absolutely necessary or else the police/criminal interaction, where the hysterical BLM proponents claim blacks are discriminated against through racism, is not isolated due to the entire population of the USA being the captured demographic.

No it's it's not nor are the hysterical your comments on the other hand are

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Are you more likely to drown in the ocean or in the desert?


Many people conclude that because more black people are killed by police (proportionate to population) as an indication of systemic racism by police.

It is of course only one possibility.

No it's pretty freaking conclusive

[The Architect Of Fate]

I'm all for the banner 

Oh and the details of floyds killing 

Oh and then there is is this 

[Foxaèr]

Is @Editz acting like a twat something recent?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Is @Editz acting like a twat something recent?

Kinda

[Duty]

The only people who think that the killing of George Floyd was racist are racists. Also, the louder they scream "RACISM!" and the more firmly and strictly they hold that line, the bigger a racist they are. Call it projection, call it false consensus effect, it's real.

The true non-racist sees the killing of George Floyd as being a policeman killing a man - we do not see the race of the actors, or at least, we view race as being necessarily irrelevant in the tragedy, as we live our lives that way. That is the correct, unifying, helpful and righteous perspective. The profound racist, on the other hand, sees nothing but race in the tragedy and fans the flames of division and unrest with every racial attribution.

@Eleven - twatishness is in the eye of the beholder.