Bringing out the big guns.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You know you're shouting down a well, right?

[onlinebiker]

I am not defending Trump.

I am pointing out your venomous hatred of anything not ( D ).

Trump has fuckall to do with how this disease spreads... If he gave great advice - would YOU listen?

Fuck no you wouldn't.

You know what spreads this shit?

Ratlickers.


Stupid fucking people who go out in large crowds and expect that a mask is a cure-all..THEY won't get it because they're young and have a holy cause....

Like dumbassed protesters....

Go out - spread the shit - and blame someone else...

Welcome to America.

Blame somebody else.

Trump has everything to do with the response to COVID19.  But your great love for him won't let anyone dare criticize your orange messiah.  You know why things are so shitty in America?  Because we don't have a leader who has a fucking clue what he's doing.  If he gave good advice, I might actually die of shock.  Because his idea of advice is nothing more than shilling whatever will make him the most money.  This isn't about Democrat or Republican.  This is about some fucking goddamn common sense.  Even some Republicans see him for what he is.  This is on him.  I don't like Mitt Romney, but he wouldn't have fucked this up the way Trump has.  And Trump has fucked up really fucking badly.  If you can't admit that... well then you're most certainly defending him.

He MADE all those people go out and take stupid chances with a contageous disease?


As much a cunt as Trump is - the fault is on the ratlickers... Stupid fucks who think they know better than the professionals trying to deal with this shit - the idiot punks on the beach, the sorry fucking drunks who can't stay away from a bar and the dumbfuck protestors...

What you want Trump to do? Lock down the whole country? Jail violators? Execute curfew breakers?

No - you just want to hear yourself bitch about those evil ( R )s. . (which I am decidedly not).

[arewethereyet]

Anyone who listened to Trump regarding medical advice is a damn idiot.

If you listen to a politician regarding your health, who doesn't happen to have a medical degree, you are an idiot.

I am not going to ask a doctor for advice on repairs for my car...it's not his specialty.

I do not like Trump, not one little bit. But people have to take some responsibility for their actions and reactions. Trump has lied about just about everything, if his lips are moving, he's lying.

[Rev. Rye]

At this point, anything the Biden camp can dig up for Trump is just icing on the cake. His record
was stupefyingly bad even before he announced his candidacy in 2015. He built his campaign on faerie dust and racism, and shortly before the election, a tape came out where he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy (helping corroborate several sexual assault allegations that have been raised over the years) and his base just didn’t care, and voted for him anyway. And because America’s electoral system is jacked, he won. And how has he done since then? Well, he’s done shit like:

• Opening his presidential campaign by treating immigration like an invasion by Mexico where "They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists." Like the entire phoenomenon of immigration is the Mariel boatlift as portrayed by Scarface.
  
• Making the only consistent campaign promise be building a giant wall over the U.S.-Mexico border, a wall which, as many have said, will inevitably be a massive boondoggle, be a waste of at least $25 billion, and will almost certainly fail at its stated purpose. And he’s so committed to it that he’s willing to shut the government down for months to make it happen.
  
• Helping foster the revival of explicitly white supremacist groups. And not only failing to disavow these unwanted supporters (not even in a piss-poor "well, if a white supremacist donates $500 to me, that's at least $500 he can't use anymore" sense like Ron Paul), but also had several dumpster fires of statements on the 2017 Unite the Right rally where he went from hollow remarks about how racism is bad and off-script statements about how there were "fine people" among the white supremacists, and even recently retweeted a video of protesters in Florida, praising the protesters, even as one of them shouted "white power!" in the first 10 seconds.
  
• Repeatedly kowtowing to dictators and doing everything he can within the confines of the Constitution to become one. It's reached the point that many experts on fascism have argued that his policies are all but explicitly fascist.
  
• Getting caught trying to order a quid pro quo asking for Ukraine for kompromat on Joe Biden in exchange for foreign aid, when caught, all but explicitly argued he was above the law, and, worse, having his party reinforce this opinion when he was acquitted on party lines.
  
• Setting up what amounts to concentration camps at the US border to hold illegal immigrants (and, yes, not only do experts on concentration camps agree with this terminology, but also Holocaust survivors), places where interned people are told that if they want some water, they can drink from a toilet, among many other things.
  
• Threatening war with North Korea (a nuclear power, even if it is woefully under-equipped) and Iran (yet another war in the Middle East that would do nothing but make things worse, if our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are any indication). 
  
• Acting like a wrestling heel at every possible opportunity.
  
• When confronted with a pandemic, ignored the response plan that Barack Obama had set up in his administration, used it to race-bait against Chinese people, used pandemic briefings as an excuse to push misinformation up to and including using bleach as a potential treatment, and most damningly of all in this category, decided to stop giving a shit about the virus' spread as the US became the epicenter of the virus.
  
• And because all of this is hurting his chances at a re-election and because there’s a pandemic that’s making in-person voting really dangerous, he’s doing what he can to hinder mail-in voting efforts by fucking with the Post Office and has hinted that he may not leave the White House even if he is opted out.
  

With all this, I struggle to imagine anything that people could find to skew opinion against Trump in ways that open authoritarianism, his many sexual assault allegations, pandering to racists, blatant disregard for the law, and utter indifference to the pandemic that’s affecting America like it’s affecting no other nation can.

[Fireball]

The neighbor across the street was dolling up her garage with some geegaws, and I went to talk with her about it. I occasionally visit our neighbors two doors east of her (they are bikers, and I'm an old Harley fan, having had one many moons ago). She told me that she saw a NAZI symbol tattoo on his arm (not sure what she saw, she didn't say in particular), and that he was passing NAZI literature to her sons (they are in their 30s, near as I can tell).   I'll be doing a BIT less visiting over there. He's just a visitor, a friend of one of the guys that live there. That guy knows that I vote (D), so he's probably told the NAZI guy that, because that guy never gets into politics with me. Fucking NAZIs! SMH.