Philly Clusterphunky

[The Architect Of Fate]

I'm arguing from the fact of why should he trust the cops wouldn't? and they have in other instances. If either way he gets shot neither is the safer option if the result is you wind up dead. 

I disagree

The odds are better with dropping the knife, or even better, not picking up the knife, to begin with. I don't know all of the details but someone called the police for a reason. When the police arrived the reason appeared to be a guy threatening people with a knife, who refused to drop the knife.  

Sometimes the responsibility/liability falls on the offender, including death.

How did you come to those odds? Yes called the police but the details of why remain scarce. A person had a knife his motivation for having the knife isn't known either. As for dropping it, This goes back to my first point. 

That can be the case. It remains to be seen if that applies here.

[arewethereyet]

Why is it the suspect didn't stab his mother to death when she tried to take the knife away from him? Because he wasn't afraid of civilians, he was afraid of cops.

I watched the video in the article posted.  I also read the article.  Where's the bit about his mother and the knife?  I'm tired, maybe I missed it.

[Brian37]

Why is it the suspect didn't stab his mother to death when she tried to take the knife away from him? Because he wasn't afraid of civilians, he was afraid of cops.

I watched the video in the article posted.  I also read the article.  Where's the bit about his mother and the knife?  I'm tired, maybe I missed it.

It may have not made your sources, but I saw the clip in the news. It was before police shot him.

[onlinebiker]

Why is it the suspect didn't stab his mother to death when she tried to take the knife away from him? Because he wasn't afraid of civilians, he was afraid of cops.

Or because he didn't figure mom had a gun?

You are making excuses for the guy RESPONSIBLE for the shooting.


It's clearly suicide by cop.


The cop's only other option was to get stuck by a blade.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Or because he didn't figure mom had a gun?

Or because he wasn't scared of civilians 

You are making excuses for the guy RESPONSIBLE for the shooting.

Nope were talking about motivations 

It's clearly suicide by cop.

No, it's not clearly  anything 

The cop's only other option was to get stuck by a blade.

No, they had plenty of other options they choose to kill him

[Brian37]

I'm arguing from the fact of why should he trust the cops wouldn't? and they have in other instances. If either way he gets shot neither is the safer option if the result is you wind up dead. 

I disagree

The odds are better with dropping the knife, or even better, not picking up the knife to begin with. I don't know all of the details but someone called to police for a reason. When the police arrived the reason appeared to be a guy threatening people with a knife, who refused to drop the knife.  

Sometimes the responsibility/liability falls on the offender, including death.

Even the mentally ill? You do know his father said he had mental health issues and was on medicine?

I am sorry, but just because someone is armed doesn't mean you always have to kill them. And again, there are plenty of cases where cops successfully disarm people without killing them.

Deadly force should always be a last resort, but in America it has become far to often a hair trigger default.

[onlinebiker]

The odds are better with dropping the knife, or even better, not picking up the knife to begin with. I don't know all of the details but someone called to police for a reason. When the police arrived the reason appeared to be a guy threatening people with a knife, who refused to drop the knife.  

Sometimes the responsibility/liability falls on the offender, including death.

Even the mentally ill? You do know his father said he had mental health issues and was on medicine?

I am sorry, but just because someone is armed doesn't mean you always have to kill them. And again, there are plenty of cases where cops successfully disarm people without killing them.

Deadly force should always be a last resort, but in America it has become far to often a hair trigger default.

Deadly force WAS the last resort....


What part of "drop the motherfucking knife you moron" isn't computing for you?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Deadly force WAS the last resort....

No, it literally wasn't 

What part of "drop the motherfucking knife you moron" isn't computing for you?

What part of "I have no reason to believe you won't just shoot me anyway" Or "I only have the knife because I don't trust you fuckers aren't here kill me " isn't computing for you?

[onlinebiker]

And there's that jilted sorority girl again.....


Sad ain't it?

[The Architect Of Fate]

And there's that jilted sorority girl again.....


Sad ain't it?

Ah, there's the dumbass coward again. Who can't rack his thick caveman skull for a better insult and says he ignores people only to then contradict himself by responding twice in the span of a few minutes. 

Sad ain't it?