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Philly Clusterphunky
#31
RE: Philly Clusterphunky
(October 28, 2020 at 4:50 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(October 27, 2020 at 9:23 pm)brewer Wrote: The odds are better with dropping the knife, or even better, not picking up the knife to begin with. I don't know all of the details but someone called to police for a reason. When the police arrived the reason appeared to be a guy threatening people with a knife, who refused to drop the knife.  

Sometimes the responsibility/liability falls on the offender, including death.

Even the mentally ill? You do know his father said he had mental health issues and was on medicine?

I am sorry, but just because someone is armed doesn't mean you always have to kill them. And again, there are plenty of cases where cops successfully disarm people without killing them.

Deadly force should always be a last resort, but in America it has become far to often a hair trigger default.

Did the responding officers know when they arrived? How close would you let an angry person with a knife get, mentally ill or not?

Were the previous "successfully disarmed" aggressively advancing on the police?

Being mentally ill does not relieve the person of all responsibility.

Plus, I previously said that the police over reacted.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#32
RE: Philly Clusterphunky
Quote:Did the responding officers know when they arrived? How close would you let an angry person with a knife get, mentally ill or not?
Whether they did or not is moot. Closer then I imagine they did 


Quote:Were the previous "successfully disarmed" aggressively advancing on the police?
Yup there have been  instances of just that 


Quote:Being mentally ill does not relieve the person of all responsibility.
Depends 

Quote:Plus, I previously said that the police overreacted.
This is true
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#33
RE: Philly Clusterphunky
(October 28, 2020 at 6:39 pm)brewer Wrote:
(October 28, 2020 at 4:50 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Even the mentally ill? You do know his father said he had mental health issues and was on medicine?

I am sorry, but just because someone is armed doesn't mean you always have to kill them. And again, there are plenty of cases where cops successfully disarm people without killing them.

Deadly force should always be a last resort, but in America it has become far to often a hair trigger default.

Did the responding officers know when they arrived? How close would you let an angry person with a knife get, mentally ill or not?

Were the previous "successfully disarmed" aggressively advancing on the police?

Being mentally ill does not relieve the person of all responsibility.

Plus, I previously said that the police over reacted.


It wasn't just one officer that fired their gun. 

A dozen shots were fired at least. The reports say multiple police fired.

So they over reacted.
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