Atheism & Bisexuality

[Edwardo Piet]

Just want to air some opinions here.

Well I think this has been mentioned before, but atheists are, to extents, less constrained by, should I say, moral standards. We are able to think and feel according to our inclinations and temptations; we have our own obligations which are not dictated by an age-old book. If I'm not wrong, there's a passage in the Bible that doesn't encourage, crudely quoted, men who lay with other men like they would lay with a woman. So yeah, I think even if a Christian had homosexual inclinations, he'd have more resistance to it compared to an atheist who justifies himself. Of course, this excludes the homophobic atheists who feel strongly against the matter, but what the heck!

Also, I believe this does have relation to the exposure. Once again, the atheists are exposed to more radical viewpoints, allowing themselves to read and consider alternative viewpoints, unlike some Christians who are born and trained to be narrow-minded. So its kinda like desensitization, or its greater scope of acceptance and hence being prone to influence.

So yeah, I know my points aren't really formed, but that's what I think. :/

And I agree with you.

EvF

[Azazylix]

Yay, its nice to know someone actually agrees with me. ^^

[Edwardo Piet]

You commonly get DISagreement on that matter then?

EvF

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Brick-top commented on how he found that a lot of atheists he knows are bisexual. Is there some kind of link?

Here is a poll to find out.

Do you think it's remotely possible that you're conflating correlation and causation?

[g-mark]

Less savoury aspects of Australian culture include a deep and pervasive homophobia combined with an even deeper anti intellectualism..

Hang on while I have a laugh.



You should have said 'world culture'. Are you a bit upset with my comments?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

You should have said 'world culture'. Are you a bit upset with my comments?

Upset? At what? I said "Australian culture " because that's what I meant. It's a matter of degree.


EG: "Australia; the only country in the world where the word " academic" is used frequently as a term of abuse" (Dame Leonie Kramer,Australian writer and academic)


Addendum: In Australia the words "academic" and "intellectual" are treated as interchangeable.

[Kyuuketsuki]

Last night my daughter asked me if she was homophobic to be embarrassed when two girls on her bus were kissing rather enthusiastically at the back of the bus ... not wanting to be in the business of bringing up bigots I started by asking a few basic questions including whether she found enthusiastic snogging by hetero couples embarrassing.

To cut a long story short it turns out it is, more than anything, the enthusiastic nature of the couple involved rather than their sexuality which bothered her although she is slightly more embarrassed by lesbians than gays as I would be slightly more by gays rather than lesbians (and the truth is I have absolutely no problem lesbianism ... especially porno-style LOL).

No problem as far as I'm concerned ... she's just an ordinary kid growing up in a complicated society.

Kyu

[Azazylix]

You commonly get DISagreement on that matter then?

EvF

Not disagreement per se, just that its an extremely sensitive issue in seemingly-sunny Singapore. Moreover, I study in a boy's school, so something like that is usually considered Out-Of-Bounds, and/or social suicide, with regards to discussion or practice.

Last night my daughter asked me if she was homophobic to be embarrassed when two girls on her bus were kissing rather enthusiastically at the back of the bus ... not wanting to be in the business of bringing up bigots I started by asking a few basic questions including whether she found enthusiastic snogging by hetero couples embarrassing.

To cut a long story short it turns out it is, more than anything, the enthusiastic nature of the couple involved rather than their sexuality which bothered her although she is slightly more embarrassed by lesbians than gays as I would be slightly more by gays rather than lesbians (and the truth is I have absolutely no problem lesbianism ... especially porno-style LOL).

No problem as far as I'm concerned ... she's just an ordinary kid growing up in a complicated society.

Kyu

I agree with you, or rather your daughter. I think perhaps its the openness of any act of affection, 'coz personally, I feel that what was done behind closed doors should continue to be done behind closed doors. Once again with reference to my country, such PDAs are frowned upon by the public, and more often than not photographed and posted on STOMP, a website that features largely inconsiderate acts (such as littering, seat-hogging, etc.).

So in essence, my view is that behind closed doors, one can do whatever one wants, but in public one should always maintain a civilized disposition. Its kinda like the difference between home and school, I guess.

Regarding Kyu's second point, perhaps embarrassment is from seeing a member of one's own sex performing controversial acts? Same way one tends to formulate hilarious stereotypes of the opposite sex, one has a certain attachment to members of one's own gender, vaguely brothers or sisters perhaps.

[Kyuuketsuki]

Regarding Kyu's second point, perhaps embarrassment is from seeing a member of one's own sex performing controversial acts? Same way one tends to formulate hilarious stereotypes of the opposite sex, one has a certain attachment to members of one's own gender, vaguely brothers or sisters perhaps.

As much as anything I suspect it is to do with being unable to relate to two men engaged in any kind of overtly sexual activity whereas I can, being a hetero male, relate to girl on girl because it's a standard hetero male fantasy.

Kyu

[g-mark]

EG: "Australia; the only country in the world where the word " academic" is used frequently as a term of abuse" (Dame Leonie Kramer,Australian writer and academic)

Addendum: In Australia the words "academic" and "intellectual" are treated as interchangeable.

Have you ever been to Australia?

To cut a long story short it turns out it is, more than anything, the enthusiastic nature of the couple involved rather than their sexuality which bothered her although she is slightly more embarrassed by lesbians than gays as I would be slightly more by gays rather than lesbians (and the truth is I have absolutely no problem lesbianism ... especially porno-style LOL).

Did you say that to your daughter? or

Say that when she makes her first porno.