[Serious] Non-binary

[Foxaèr]

I think you should read further into the article. There is a great deal of discord regarding the nonbinary concept, and yet even this article does identify it as gender dysphoria. Seems some people only read and accept what they want.

[Paleophyte]

I think you should read further into the article. There is a great deal of discord regarding the nonbinary concept, and yet even this article does identify it as gender dysphoria. Seems some people only read and accept what they want.

The Richards et al paper references gender dysphoria by way of the APA's DSM-5, which is where the term was defined. The DSM-5 definition of gender dysphoria clearly indicates that gender is non-binary. From the APA's Fact Sheet on Gender Dysphoria:

 - A strong desire to be of the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)

Emphasis mine.

[The Grand Nudger]

What they may personally identify as in no way correlates with reality, unfortunately.

When we say things like this, do we mean them in some novel way that doesn’t reduce our own self apprehensions to the same.

Are you what you think you are? What if I told you that your personal identity in no way correlated with reality?

[LadyForCamus]

This is about gender, not sexual orientation. Biologically, there are only two genders, two sexes; and despite the opposition to the contrary, gender and sex are the same concept.

Wow. Gender and biological sex are not the same thing. Why are people still railing against something that the scientific community has reached consensus on? This shouldn’t even be controversial anymore except that folks like you, who think because you don’t experience gender at any other point on the spectrum other than exactly where you are, have decided that the spectrum itself simply cannot exist. Sounds like an argument from personal incredulity to me.

[Ravenshire]

What they may personally identify as in no way correlates with reality, unfortunately.

Since Kit seems to be ignoring reality, I'll reiterate:

Again, trans being an entirely different subject, I am only bringing up trans again to make a brief point. When someone is transitioning, they are required to seek professional psychological help to ensure that they are in the proper frame of mind to undertake the process of aligning their bodies with their minds. That is understandable and acceptable from my perspective. I have never had any issue with trans people, and again the nonbinary concept is a completely separate issue.

That being said, I reiterate that nonbinary is simply someone's personal, albeit unreasonable, choice to be recognized as something outside the biological binary. Which can logically be likened to a harmless self-delusion based more on a growing movement than reality. Do nonbinary people need professional psychological help? I doubt it. Are they still delusional? Absolutely.

(my bold)

What biological binary? Even if you've never heard the term intersex, I'm sure you've heard crude references to "chicks with dicks." The sharing of physical sexual traits across your imaginary binary boundary may not be common, but it does provide evidence that biological sex is more a scale than an on/off switch.

(added emphasis)

Where is the "biological binary" in intersexed individuals?!?

[John 6IX Breezy]

What biological binary? Even if you've never heard the term intersex, I'm sure you've heard crude references to "chicks with dicks." The sharing of physical sexual traits across your imaginary binary boundary may not be common, but it does provide evidence that biological sex is more a scale than an on/off switch [emphasis added]. 

To be clear, there are two sexes in humans—these are functional reproductive categories that exist at the group level. The affix inter- in intersex aptly refers to individuals that for various reasons developed combinations between the two sexes, or are otherwise ambiguous. The scale analogy is not very good because even intersex conditions occur in recognizable categories rather than gradual scales (i.e. Turner Syndrome, XYY Syndrome, etc.).

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[Neo-Scholastic]

What biological binary? Even if you've never heard the term intersex, I'm sure you've heard crude references to "chicks with dicks." The sharing of physical sexual traits across your imaginary binary boundary may not be common, but it does provide evidence that biological sex is more a scale than an on/off switch [emphasis added]. 

To be clear, there are two sexes in humans—these are functional reproductive categories that exist at the group level. The affix inter- in intersex aptly refers to individuals that for various reasons developed combinations between the two sexes, or are otherwise ambiguous. The scale analogy is not very good because even intersex conditions occur in recognizable categories rather than gradual scales (i.e. Turner Syndrome, XYY Syndrome, etc.).

When two elements join chemically it is considered a compound, not a new element. In the same way, intersex does not seem like a distinct sex but the presence, in one individual, of both male and female sex features. Nevertheless, I can understand how an intersex person might desire a third catagory of sex rather than be defined by one's diagnosis.

[Angrboda]

What biological binary? Even if you've never heard the term intersex, I'm sure you've heard crude references to "chicks with dicks." The sharing of physical sexual traits across your imaginary binary boundary may not be common, but it does provide evidence that biological sex is more a scale than an on/off switch [emphasis added]. 

To be clear, there are two sexes in humans—these are functional reproductive categories that exist at the group level. The affix inter- in intersex aptly refers to individuals that for various reasons developed combinations between the two sexes, or are otherwise ambiguous. The scale analogy is not very good because even intersex conditions occur in recognizable categories rather than gradual scales (i.e. Turner Syndrome, XYY Syndrome, etc.).

Developmentally, the sexual organs derive from the same source, so some intersex conditions are a gradation of difference.

[Neo-Scholastic]

I can imagine that in ancient pagan culture the birth of what they would have called a hermaphradite...such a birth would have been considered of great import. I wonder if some cultures would have pushed such a child into some revered ceramonial role of a mystery religion.